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With all this talk about the governments of the world messing with the internet is there any talk of having a backup via ham radio? It would basically knock us all back to dial up but, thats better than nothing.
Registered Member #30
Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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There used to be a worldwide packet radio system operated by hams, but the Internet killed it.
It was even slower than dialup, 1200 baud half duplex. Messages could take days to travel internationally.
Also, ham radio is regulated by the same government agencies that deal with all the other communication systems. They probably pay less attention to it because nobody uses it, but you can bet that would change.
Registered Member #103
Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:16PM
Location: Derby, UK
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I've thought about this before, but with a slight variation.
Assuming the phone infrastructure is still there, we'd be back to dial-up BBSs, but with a difference - and it wouldn't be all that bad either.
You'd have your list of dial up numbers, and you'd dial into one of them on your old 56k modem.... then fire up your web browser. The remote system would also be hosting a simple DNS server, so no matter what you typed into your browser address bar, you'd get that system's homepage (like you do when connecting to wifi at hotels, etc) and the system might contain a forum and a PDF download area. You'd middle-click all the interesting links to open them in new tabs, go make a coffee whilst they all open, and then disconnect. 1337 people would run all the dial-in systems.
Obviously all the high-bandwidth stuff like youtube, software/music/video downloads would be in the past - but I could just about live with that.
Registered Member #162
Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Maybe some kind of WiFi network using a peer-to-peer network? a metropolitan area network may be possible without any controlled access points and some (covert) inter-network repeaters?
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The shadow net is a tunneling topology overlay that masquerades to evade deep packet inspection. Incidentally, the DNS system functionality is substituted by a DHT signature inventory caching system.
However, the only people who generally use this system are inside some fairly unstable parts of the world. There are several people working on a global network of Very Low Frequency (VLF) radio transceivers.
Micro-sat Gigabit service is available if you have a up-link
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Currently the problem is that our internet is too centralized. If we had a decent transmitter on every computer a good portion of the internet could be run like a torrent I imagine. Seeds and leaches providing static content but, if it was dynamic such as a forum that could pose additional hurdles.
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Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
Location: North Texas
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D-Star and other systems are moving ham radio further into digital, and I wouldn't be surprised if a combination of that and HSMMN (High Speed Multimedia Network) were put together. For the unfamiliar, the WiFi spectrum does overlap slightly with the ham radio spectrum (only a few channels here in the US, so they have to be used) and the ham operators can modify the wifi equipment in any way as long as it is used in accordance with normal amateur radio rules
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