If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.
Special Thanks To:
Aaron Holmes
Aaron Wheeler
Adam Horden
Alan Scrimgeour
Andre
Andrew Haynes
Anonymous000
asabase
Austin Weil
barney
Barry
Bert Hickman
Bill Kukowski
Blitzorn
Brandon Paradelas
Bruce Bowling
BubeeMike
Byong Park
Cesiumsponge
Chris F.
Chris Hooper
Corey Worthington
Derek Woodroffe
Dalus
Dan Strother
Daniel Davis
Daniel Uhrenholt
datasheetarchive
Dave Billington
Dave Marshall
David F.
Dennis Rogers
drelectrix
Dr. John Gudenas
Dr. Spark
E.TexasTesla
eastvoltresearch
Eirik Taylor
Erik Dyakov
Erlend^SE
Finn Hammer
Firebug24k
GalliumMan
Gary Peterson
George Slade
GhostNull
Gordon Mcknight
Graham Armitage
Grant
GreySoul
Henry H
IamSmooth
In memory of Leo Powning
Jacob Cash
James Howells
James Pawson
Jeff Greenfield
Jeff Thomas
Jesse Frost
Jim Mitchell
jlr134
Joe Mastroianni
John Forcina
John Oberg
John Willcutt
Jon Newcomb
klugesmith
Leslie Wright
Lutz Hoffman
Mads Barnkob
Martin King
Mats Karlsson
Matt Gibson
Matthew Guidry
mbd
Michael D'Angelo
Mikkel
mileswaldron
mister_rf
Neil Foster
Nick de Smith
Nick Soroka
nicklenorp
Nik
Norman Stanley
Patrick Coleman
Paul Brodie
Paul Jordan
Paul Montgomery
Ped
Peter Krogen
Peter Terren
PhilGood
Richard Feldman
Robert Bush
Royce Bailey
Scott Fusare
Scott Newman
smiffy
Stella
Steven Busic
Steve Conner
Steve Jones
Steve Ward
Sulaiman
Thomas Coyle
Thomas A. Wallace
Thomas W
Timo
Torch
Ulf Jonsson
vasil
Vaxian
vladi mazzilli
wastehl
Weston
William Kim
William N.
William Stehl
Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Registered Member #30
Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706
How do you intend to measure "what would happen"?
I can make a pretty good guess. The inductor will have a self-resonant frequency. Below that frequency it looks like an inductor. Above it, it looks like a capacitor.
Since the size of the inductor is significant compared to a wavelength, it'll also act as an antenna. You'll see a resistive part to its impedance, corresponding to the radiation resistance.
Registered Member #543
Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
Location: UK
Posts: 4992
If you are happy to do your microwave experiments over short distances - say a few hundred metres in a line of sight - then you can build everything yourself using very simple circuits made from inexpensive parts.
For example, at 2.3GHz, you could build a transmitter using just one active device - a suitable transistor or thermionic triode - and a super-regenerative receiver also using just one transistor or thermionic triode (followed by a single simple stage of audio amplification). In the early years of amateur radio on the microwave bands, this very type of equipment was used to communicate over tens of kilometres. The quality of the antenna, its feedline and matching, are central to successful microwave communication using this flea powered equipment, but is all very do-able at modest cost so long as everything is done with care.
The design and construction of amplification circuits at 2.3GHz - whether receiver signal amplification, or transmitter power amplification - is a specialised business intolerant of even small errors, and needing some fairly expensive test kit to set up properly, so I really wouldn't recommend it as a starter project.
You can make an RF field strength meter to detect your microwaves up to about 2.5GHz using very few and cheap parts - namely a suitable small signal diode, followed by a basic op-amp, and a meter that can measure microamps. You will need this to satisfy yourself that your one transistor microwave oscillator is in fact oscillating and radiating a signal, as Steve has hinted.
Determing the frequency of oscillation around 13cm is another matter, but if you are really strapped for cash you can get a very approximate result using the ancient technique of Lecher wires described here:
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.