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Forty
Sat Feb 18 2012, 07:32PM
Forty Registered Member #3888 Joined: Sun May 15 2011, 09:50PM
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a V-switch circuit will shut off an SCR without turning off the power, but it requires a second SCR and a smaller capacity capacitor. Link2
An IGBT would probably be simpler for your case though.
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NoName
Sat Feb 18 2012, 11:54PM
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Im having trouble finding an scr that takes that current and an igbt that is not huge. Any recommendations?

How are you guys getting those current calculations?
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NoName
Sun Feb 19 2012, 06:26AM
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How about this one. 500V DS, 100 amp continuous. Maybe this is overkill. If I am discharging caps and the current is very momentary, do I need that high of a rating?

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m4ge123
Sun Feb 19 2012, 06:33AM
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Way overkill. Here's some SCRs that are overkill but cheap: Link2
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Pinky's Brain
Sun Feb 19 2012, 06:36AM
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You can buy thyristors for a couple of bucks which can handle that ... BT151 for instance (easier to search on digikey by the way, they allow you to select on surge current).
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m4ge123
Sun Feb 19 2012, 08:00AM
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So does mouser, I already selected 500A and up.
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NoName
Sun Feb 19 2012, 03:54PM
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Thanks guys! Never used one of these. It looks like a thyristor would be a really cheap and compact method. Since they are cheap enough, I will probably go with a 200A breakover current and 600V rating, like the TYN616RG. I think links are disabled, but Ill try to post the datasheet.

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klugesmith
Sun Feb 19 2012, 04:04PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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NoName wrote ...
How are you guys getting those current calculations?
Here's a popular online calculator. Link2 It draws damped sin (and optional cos) waveforms, whose coefficients come from elementary LCR theory. Result in your case agrees with that given by "wolfram".

Note that if your switch is an SCR, your capacitor will be left with charge of 70 volts and reversed polarity. Search the "projectile accelerator" forum here for remedies.
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Pinky's Brain
Sun Feb 19 2012, 04:06PM
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BTW, you do have a diode across the capacitors to make sure they don't get pulled negative?
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Antonio
Sun Feb 19 2012, 04:08PM
Antonio Registered Member #834 Joined: Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:57PM
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Note that at these absurdly high current levels the core of the solenoid surely saturates, the inductance drops to the air-core level, and the current rises even more. The 1N4007 alone would protect the mosfet, but its maximum current (for long time) is just 1 A. More turns on the solenoid are a simple solution.
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