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Audio modulated ZVS?

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Platinum
Sun Feb 05 2012, 07:33PM Print
Platinum Registered Member #3926 Joined: Fri Jun 03 2011, 08:32PM
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Is it possible to have a audio modulated ZVS?

I was just experimenting with my ZVS, I made it variable, by using a old motor from a strimmer, and if I one of the wires of the ZVS inputs to the motors brush it can vary.

And when the brush (I think it is the brush, maybe commutator) spins the ZVS arc makes a sound of when the contact is on the motors commutator, sorry if that didn't make sense.
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haxor5354
Sun Feb 05 2012, 07:37PM
haxor5354 Registered Member #2063 Joined: Sat Apr 04 2009, 03:16PM
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do you have a picture or video of the setup?
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Platinum
Sun Feb 05 2012, 07:37PM
Platinum Registered Member #3926 Joined: Fri Jun 03 2011, 08:32PM
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No, but I can take pictures, but they will have to be from my phone as my camera battery charger is lost.

It is acting like a big variable resistor.
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Inducktion
Sun Feb 05 2012, 08:00PM
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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Platinum, yes,it is possible to audio modulate the ZVS driver; however, it is going to be a linear modulator, in the form of a Class A amplifier of sorts feeding the ZVS. It'll get pretty hot, but it would definitely be possible. It would also sound pretty good too, since it's class A modulation.
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Alex M
Sun Feb 05 2012, 08:08PM
Alex M Registered Member #3943 Joined: Sun Jun 12 2011, 05:24PM
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Inducktion wrote ...

Platinum, yes,it is possible to audio modulate the ZVS driver; however, it is going to be a linear modulator, in the form of a Class A amplifier of sorts feeding the ZVS. It'll get pretty hot, but it would definitely be possible. It would also sound pretty good too, since it's class A modulation.

Is this why my half-bridge plasma speaker's MOSFET's get hotter when it is being audio modulated, becuase it operates more linearly?

Without audio I have 12v on each MOSFET's gate and they take a while to get warm at all, but with audio that changes (its frequency modulated) based upon the specific waveform of the audio which I am guessing means the MOSFET's operate in the linear region for longer?
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Inducktion
Sun Feb 05 2012, 11:21PM
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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I wouldn't think so; the gate drive voltage signal should be the exact same, so the MOSFET's should stay the same temp without audio modulation.

What kind of audio modulation does your half bridge use?
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Weston
Sun Feb 05 2012, 11:44PM
Weston Registered Member #1316 Joined: Thu Feb 14 2008, 03:35AM
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Audio modulating a ZVS is possible. You PWM the input chokes.

Look at some of the designs for royer oscillators in LCD backlight inverters for ideas on how to implement it. They use this method to regulate brightness of the bulbs.
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Alex M
Sun Feb 05 2012, 11:51PM
Alex M Registered Member #3943 Joined: Sun Jun 12 2011, 05:24PM
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Inducktion wrote ...

I wouldn't think so; the gate drive voltage signal should be the exact same, so the MOSFET's should stay the same temp without audio modulation.

What kind of audio modulation does your half bridge use?

The one gren designed here Link2

Frequency modulation I think, there is also a gate drive transformer which might be the cause as it outputs different voltages depending on frequency so when there is audio added it goes all over the place.

On a side note we just had a power-cut here and I could not find my cable I made so I could power my router with one of my 12v battery's. As soon as the power came back on I found it! mad
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