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Conundrum
Mon Jul 17 2006, 02:00PM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hi all.
Picked up a stack (5) of those "resistor" variety ignition cables. Upon cutting one open the core consists of black conductive rubber with some sort of carbon fibre core, overall resistance seems to be about 10k per 5cm length dropping to 3.5k when you press on the rubber, and 1.5K if you insert meter probes into ends of core.

This gave me an idea. People are always complaining about resistor breakdowns in MARX generators, so what about using these conductive cables as resistors?

Regards, -A

1153144836 96 FT0 Rubber
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Electroholic
Mon Jul 17 2006, 05:58PM
Electroholic Registered Member #191 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 02:01AM
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10k is not enough, most ppl use ~1meg.
that would be a 5m long piece?
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Marko
Mon Jul 17 2006, 08:58PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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You can try using ordinary vulcanised rubber pad cut into two traces and lined, acting as resistors, and you just screw the caps on equal dstances.

Some rubber I had here wasn't quite measurable with ohmmeter, but does onduct HV (I tried with an obit).

Resistance seems to be in higher megaohms, maybe even too high for my piece, I guess good pressure on contacts or using another piece of rubber would help.
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teravolt
Tue Jul 18 2006, 02:52AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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conundrum we have used this method before at work and about 4" will work. only problem is that it has a limited life span. you can use inductors in place of resistors. i happened to find some on ebay. good luck. N.B.
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Conundrum
Wed Jul 19 2006, 06:13PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hi. Whats the failure mode btw?

thanks, -A
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teravolt
Thu Jul 20 2006, 02:41AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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carbon center gets eaten away on the ends
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Conundrum
Thu Jul 20 2006, 06:00PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hi teravolt. have you tried actually poking the wires 1cm or so into the pieces rather than clamping?

-A
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