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Patrick
Thu Dec 29 2011, 06:51AM Print
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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i have desoldered many of these wire wound resistors.

ive searched for 5-band color code... but cant find this value...

black --- white --- silver --- gold --- black
1325141461 2431 FT0 Sam 0830


my ohm meter wobbles between 0.1 and 0.2 ohms, but i dont know if thats accurate.
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Dr. Slack
Thu Dec 29 2011, 11:54AM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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I can't help you with the resistor colours (I think either gold or silver could mean something like x0.1 or x0.01 the other bands, but I've not seen both together), but can suggest a better method of measurement.

If you have a known current source, or a stable one you can measure, then pass a current through the resistor, and measure the voltage *at the resistor wires with seperate terminals*. This is known as a 4-wire measurement, it avoids adding in the contact and lead resistance of a normal 2-wire measurement. It also allows you to use higher currents and lower voltage ranges than your meter might use by default on its minimum ohm range.
-----------------\/\/\/\/\/\/------------------
    ^         ^                 ^          ^
    |         |                 |          |
volt+     current+        current-        volt -
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Fulmen
Thu Dec 29 2011, 12:57PM
Fulmen Registered Member #3883 Joined: Fri May 13 2011, 06:30PM
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Weird. If you ignore the last band (black is not a valid tolerance value) you get 0.09ohm ±5% (silver is x0,01).

The extra black band could be temperature coefficient. but I'm only guessing.
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Bjørn
Thu Dec 29 2011, 01:06PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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Black is 0 and it make no sense starting with 0 so what if we ignore the black bands and get 9 * 0.01 = 0.09 Ohm and 5% accuracy. Or 0.08 Ohm if it is a grey and not white band. Seems best to just measure it.

The 4-wire measurement is great for such uses but be careful with large inductors, even if you keep the voltage low you can hurt yourself if you disconnect the current abruptly.

Edit: Fulmen got there first, black is 200 ppm/K.
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Tetris
Thu Dec 29 2011, 05:48PM
Tetris Registered Member #4016 Joined: Thu Jul 21 2011, 01:52AM
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But isn't resistance futile if <0.7 ohms?
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Patrick
Thu Dec 29 2011, 08:24PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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kelvin measurment on the way! ty all.
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klugesmith
Thu Dec 29 2011, 08:49PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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Aside from the uncommon color sequence, the package shape is interesting.
I've never seen one that looked so much like a conformal coating over about three turns of thick wire.
We could estimate its inductance and corner frequency from the geometry.

When you're done with the four-wire resistance measurement, may I borrow the specimen to make an x-ray of it?
Or if your dentist has gone digital, ask him/her to please x-ray the resistor on your next visit.
Simpler yet (but less fun): since you said you have many such resistors, perhaps you can dissect one.
Thanks!
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Patrick
Thu Dec 29 2011, 08:53PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
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klugesmith wrote ...

Aside from the uncommon color sequence, the package shape is interesting.
I've never seen one that looked so much like a conformal coating over about three turns of thick wire.
We could estimate its inductance and corner frequency from the geometry.

When you're done with the four-wire resistance measurement, may I borrow the specimen to make an x-ray of it?
Or if your dentist has gone digital, ask him/her to please x-ray the resistor on your next visit.
Thanks!

i need my own xray lab for this reason, ive PM'ed you... its actually two resistance wires wrapped in CW and then CCW...
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radiotech
Thu Dec 29 2011, 08:58PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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Try this code. Characteristic.. frequently used to include various qualities.....



1325192282 2463 FT131122 Eiacode
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Patrick
Thu Dec 29 2011, 09:16PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
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by radiotechs chart i get:

09 x 0.01 +/-5% characteistic A = 0.09 ohms +/- 5% Characteristic A
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