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MIT camera takes 3 trillion frames/second

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IamSmooth
Mon Dec 19 2011, 02:12AM Print
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Does anyone know how this camera works?
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magnet18
Mon Dec 19 2011, 04:04AM
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I saw that, it actually captures light moving!
No idea how it works, but my mind was blown!

[EDIT]
answer- Link2
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Mads Barnkob
Mon Dec 19 2011, 08:59AM
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This is already discussed in this thread: Link2
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Platinum
Mon Dec 19 2011, 09:05AM
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The guy talks with professionalism.
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Steve Conner
Mon Dec 19 2011, 10:39AM
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MIT published a few papers on it, and they're available for download from the MIT group site.

To cut a long story short, they cheated. The light is a very accurately timed and short pulse from a Ti:sapphire laser. They shoot it over and over, capturing the scene with a streak camera and probably integrating a lot of shots. The streak camera produces a 2-D image, which represents how one vertical line of the scene changes throughout the movie. Then they move a mirror slightly to capture the next scanline of the scene and do it again.

So, it shoots 3 trillion FPS but takes a day to make a 5 second movie, and they call this progress! tongue
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Patrick
Mon Dec 19 2011, 10:50PM
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If we wanted to see how a high expolsive blast wave propagates through a hardened stainless steel rod, their camera would be useless, right?

Cheating i say!
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IamSmooth
Tue Dec 20 2011, 02:55AM
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Yes, I read the link and can see that it is not exactly what I thought. I was hoping that if it truely could capture 3trill with one sitting, then maybe one could observe what happens when light hits a slit and follow the photon, seeing how it behaves as a wave or particle. But if it has to be done over and over, this will not help.
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magnet18
Tue Dec 20 2011, 07:15PM
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Steve Conner wrote ...

MIT published a few papers on it, and they're available for download from the MIT group site.

To cut a long story short, they cheated. The light is a very accurately timed and short pulse from a Ti:sapphire laser. They shoot it over and over, capturing the scene with a streak camera and probably integrating a lot of shots. The streak camera produces a 2-D image, which represents how one vertical line of the scene changes throughout the movie. Then they move a mirror slightly to capture the next scanline of the scene and do it again.

So, it shoots 3 trillion FPS but takes a day to make a 5 second movie, and they call this progress! tongue



You don't call it progress? Has anyone else ever watched light move in a video? It might not be useful for something high explosive, but for anything involving light or lasers it can me quite useful.

the fact that it needs to scan multiple times is irrelevant to the double slit experiment, as this will only see photons directed towards the camera. A single photon wouldn't show up anyway.

(also, I think you meant 1-D)
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Patrick
Tue Dec 20 2011, 08:33PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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magnet18 wrote ...

Steve Conner wrote ...

MIT published a few papers on it, and they're available for download from the MIT group site.

To cut a long story short, they cheated. The light is a very accurately timed and short pulse from a Ti:sapphire laser. They shoot it over and over, capturing the scene with a streak camera and probably integrating a lot of shots. The streak camera produces a 2-D image, which represents how one vertical line of the scene changes throughout the movie. Then they move a mirror slightly to capture the next scanline of the scene and do it again.

So, it shoots 3 trillion FPS but takes a day to make a 5 second movie, and they call this progress! tongue



You don't call it progress? Has anyone else ever watched light move in a video? It might not be useful for something high explosive, but for anything involving light or lasers it can me quite useful.

the fact that it needs to scan multiple times is irrelevant to the double slit experiment, as this will only see photons directed towards the camera. A single photon wouldn't show up anyway.

(also, I think you meant 1-D)
Im sure it has its usefullness, but not as advertised in the way everyone thinks of "X frames per second" as a speed for cameras.
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Steve Conner
Wed Dec 21 2011, 07:50AM
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No, I meant 2-D. The streak camera images a 1-D "line" of the scene, and sweeps it across a screen like an oscilloscope. So it produces a 2-D image where one of the dimensions is space and the other is time.
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