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What to do with a Boostcap?

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Killa-X
Sat Dec 10 2011, 02:10AM
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Daedronus wrote ...

12 in series = portable DC TIG welder.

I didn't get much fun with 10 in series. This is why I sold them :/
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Daedronus
Sat Dec 10 2011, 02:12PM
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Killa-X wrote ...

Daedronus wrote ...

12 in series = portable DC TIG welder.

I didn't get much fun with 10 in series. This is why I sold them :/

How come?
It looked promising in this video: Link2
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klugesmith
Sat Dec 10 2011, 06:58PM
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That was a well-produced and instructional video.
But we could replicate all those destructive demonstrations using batteries of well-chosen rechargeable cells, in about the same total size and voltage. And the relative depletion of the stored energy would be much less.
Shall we start with lead-acid, NiCd, NiMH, Li-ion, or Li-poly?

Of course for us nerds, it's way cooler to do it with capacitors.
But to beat batteries you'll need to look for other applications.
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Inducktion
Sat Dec 10 2011, 07:52PM
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Methinks I'm just going to sell it to ebay for profit..
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Inducktion
Sun Dec 11 2011, 10:08PM
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Link2 oh shit melting some wire!
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m4ge123
Mon Dec 12 2011, 06:38PM
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If you get thick enough wires (between the cap and the wire you're melting) you can melt at least 10 gauge with that thing.
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klugesmith
Mon Dec 12 2011, 07:26PM
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Try bending a piece of coat-hanger wire so it can directly bridge the two capacitor terminals. It ought to get red-hot at least (steel wire needs many more volts per inch than copper wire). I used to do that with a pair of ancient flooded-plate NiCd cells. each the size of a pack of cigarettes. Link2

How about making a 250 amp capacitor charger, using a rewound MOT and a couple of big Schottky diodes? Then make a regulated boost converter to run, say, an electric scooter as the cap discharges from 2.5 volts to, say, 1.0 volt. (using 84% of its stored energy). You can run the set for many thousands of cycles, with a period on the order of one minute -- hard to match with batteries.

I thought about making an extremely-low-frequency LC tank circuit. The boostcap documentation says many types are symmetrically constructed, although frequent voltage reversal is abusive. But 3600 F is an impractically high C value, and would require impractically low R values in the inductor to make an under-damped RLC.

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Harry
Mon Dec 12 2011, 07:27PM
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Just melted some 4 gauge with a rewound MOT, which will deliver the most current, the MOT or the boostcap? Logic tells me it the capacitor But in the vid it took quite a while to melt that wire
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Daedronus
Mon Dec 12 2011, 08:37PM
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The cap can definitely source more current then a mot.
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Inducktion
Mon Dec 12 2011, 08:38PM
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Harry wrote ...

Just melted some 4 gauge with a rewound MOT, which will deliver the most current, the MOT or the boostcap? Logic tells me it the capacitor But in the vid it took quite a while to melt that wire

Yeah, but the voltage wasn't at the highest when I did that. It was around 2 volts if I remember correctly.


And, I would make a boost converter for it, but it's rather hard to find ones that work from 2.5 volts down to 1 volt...
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