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Is it possible to make an HV transistor...?

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Patrick
Tue Nov 15 2011, 01:23AM Print
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Is it possible to make a single high voltage transistor out of something like a bunch of 2N5551BU transistors? About 20 kV is needing to be swithced, with lets say 30kV for a safety/reliability factor.

2n5551
]2n5551bu.pdf[/file]


Is such a thing possible? or am I being crazy ?
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Sulaiman
Tue Nov 15 2011, 05:45AM
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Possible ? - yes
Practical? - no.
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Patrick
Tue Nov 15 2011, 06:30AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Sulaiman wrote ...

Possible ? - yes
Practical? - no.

Ok. Idea down the drain, ill keep using diodes and multiple supplies then.
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klugesmith
Tue Nov 15 2011, 06:52AM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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I agree with Sulaiman, not practical on your scale.

One place where people run many HV semiconductor switches in series
in high voltage DC power converter stations.
For example, see Link2 and Link2

"While in the early years about 84,000 devices rated at 0.9kA/1.65kV would have been necessary to build a 3,000 MW system, today the same amount of power can be transmitted using only 3,750 thyristors rated at 4kA/8kV."
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Ash Small
Tue Nov 15 2011, 09:05AM
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I recently looked into switching 4-5kV with a valve (vacuum tube).

I posted something in one of my magnetron threads.

I'm not sure if this approach could be adapted for your purpose, though.
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Steve Conner
Tue Nov 15 2011, 09:45AM
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The Russian GMI-xx tubes will happily switch a good few amps at 20 or 30kV.
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Pinky's Brain
Tue Nov 15 2011, 04:54PM
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DC->AC converters are a bit special since the Thyristors only need to be turned on, and they don't need to turn on fast ... with a non resonant circuit built with transistors you're not so lucky ...

The circuit I linked to in the other thread for an alternate GDT setup with two transformers seems the best circuit to switch MOSFETs with poor coupling (which hi-pot transformers tend to have) low mutual inductance (which fast rise time transformers tend to have) transformers. Two ferrite toroids (need to be big enough to get a couple of turns of bifilar HV insulated wire on), 1 Schottky diode, two resistors and 2 TVS per MOSFET ... pretty reasonable.

Link2

(As you see in the link, I just assumed something like this had to exist, googled for it ... and lo and behold.)

The problem with methods like optical isolation is that the gate drive then needs a floating power supply, which adds a lot more complexity per MOSFET.
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