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Experimentonomen
Mon Oct 24 2011, 11:20AM Print
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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Not really hv related so i'll but it here.

Basically im working on a audio amplifier using jfets in the input stage and lateral mosfets in the output stage. Power output between 25 and 50 watts and a simulated THD of around 0.0005% and a frequency response from DC to a few hundred kHz.

Schematics with simulation results:
Link2
Link2

And a video:
Link2

So far its only a monaural hackjob of a prototype that needs some work.
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Sulaiman
Tue Oct 25 2011, 12:15PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Just curious.....

what do you need such a high bandwidth for?
... it's likely that you will pick-up and amplify broadcast rf stations, electrical noise etc.
... you will need good input AND output filtering

Where will you get loudspeakers or headphones that justify the THD specification?

In the days when I had good hearing, if an audio PA had reasonable thd and bandwidth
the next most important parameter (to my ears) was 'damping',
i.e. low output impedance.
A low output impedance amplifier 'controls' the loudspeaker movement well.
Does your design have low output impedance?
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Experimentonomen
Wed Oct 26 2011, 06:37AM
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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Cadded a board to make it more production model like:
Link2

The protrotype has minimal filtering on input and output and its dead silent with no signal, all it does is about 60mV dc offset which can be adjusted down if wanned.

With my laptop as source i can see the soundcards noise when i turn the scope down to 20mV/div with a X1 probe on the speaker output.
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Sulaiman
Wed Oct 26 2011, 12:03PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Sounds (!) like you've made a nice PA.

Once installed in it's permanent location with input & speaker leads I'd give a final 'scope check for hf on the output just to be sure.
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Experimentonomen
Wed Oct 26 2011, 01:02PM
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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This is for home use only in my stereo rig, i build amplifiers for fun. However on this one i may offer kits in limited numbers if it turns out working over my expectation.
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Inducktion
Wed Oct 26 2011, 02:24PM
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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Experimentonomen wrote ...

i build amplifiers for fun.

How exactly do you build amplifiers anyway?...
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Experimentonomen
Thu Oct 27 2011, 01:54PM
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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You gotta be kidding me! Its one of the simplest things you can do in diy electronics next to a lamp and a battery.

Just to prove how simple it is, heres a schematic:
Link2
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Inducktion
Thu Oct 27 2011, 02:29PM
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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Experimentonomen wrote ...

You gotta be kidding me! Its one of the simplest things you can do in diy electronics next to a lamp and a battery.

Just to prove how simple it is, heres a schematic:
Link2

That doesn't seem simple.
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Experimentonomen
Thu Oct 27 2011, 04:18PM
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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Its very simple if compared to one of a decent commercial amplifier: Link2

But it can be slightly simpler: Link2

Thats about as simple as it gets and still have decent performance.
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Dr. Dark Current
Thu Oct 27 2011, 09:38PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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How do you regulate the operating point (idle current) of the output FETs? It is my understanding that gate threshold voltage and transconductance vary wildly with temperature.
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