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Uses for superconducting wire?

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Turkey9
Fri Sept 30 2011, 02:35AM
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
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I would wind it into a solenoid, stick it in a liquid He bath, bury it under the sidewalk, and start with the practical jokes! I bet you could suck someones pants off by the zipper with a field that large! Too bad money in the US isn't magnetic.... No one would be able to pick up those coins of the sidewalk!
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Forty
Fri Sept 30 2011, 02:42AM
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You could still affect the coins inductively. shoot them out of their pockets or what not. I wonder what the effects of such a magnetic field on the human brain would be.
If you had that kind of current flowing in such a small space, wouldn't the electrons start to repel each other so much that they'd launch each other off the conductor?
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Patrick
Fri Sept 30 2011, 04:28AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Forty wrote ...

... I wonder what the effects of such a magnetic field on the human brain would be...
Can we lobotimize terrorists from a distance? Maybe by aircraft or satelite?

After seeing the Big Balled HV mine sweeping Mrap, i bet the US department of defense is perfectly willing to spend the money.
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Mattski
Fri Sept 30 2011, 06:16AM
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radiotech wrote ...

How would you deal with the magnetic field produced by the 100,000 Amp wire?
If someone plucked it , what would cause it to stop vibrating?
Well if you're talking about vibration, i.e. oscillation, then radiation can slowly bleed away the energy. That's why the infamous two-capacitor problem still works with superconducting lossless capacitors, switches, and wires smile
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haxor5354
Fri Sept 30 2011, 05:13PM
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wait a second, if you're shorting out a car battery with a super-conducting wire, it should have 0 volts accross the wire and as much amps as the battery can provide.

so (0 volts)*(x amps) = 0 watts?
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Thomas W
Fri Sept 30 2011, 07:39PM
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@ haxor dont forget that the terminals and internals of the battery do have a resistence so it will have some voltage :P
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ScotchTapeLord
Fri Sept 30 2011, 10:41PM
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The voltage will be across the battery's internal resistance, though. But this conversation is dealing with magnetic loading, so the voltage would presumably be across the wire's inductance, rather than the resistance. V=IR in high school, but V=IZ in reality ;)
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Mattski
Fri Sept 30 2011, 10:56PM
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There would be some voltage across the inductance of the superconducting wire initially, but it will fall exponentially with time constant L/R and quickly become negligible. Plus a voltage sustained across a current carrying zero-resistance inductor does not actually result in any power dissipation, some energy is temporarily built up in the magnetic field around the inductor when voltage and current are both positive at a terminal, but this energy will eventually be released outside of the inductor where it is used or turned into heat.
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radiotech
Sat Oct 01 2011, 01:24AM
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The voltage will be across the battery's internal resistance,

The voltage across the internal resistance is of opposite polarity to
the terminal load voltage.

With a zero resistance, then the internal voltage is zero .

This is academic. The battery wont see a zero ohm short.
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Turkey9
Sat Oct 01 2011, 01:41AM
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In reality there is resistance in the superconducting wire, it's just really really low. The magnets on CERN's LHC carry 20,000A and have a voltage across them of only a few milivolts.
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