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Gregory
Mon Sept 26 2011, 07:36PM Print
Gregory Registered Member #2922 Joined: Sun Jun 13 2010, 12:08AM
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Hello guys, I'm building my big coil, it uses a cm300dy-24h full bridge driven by two GDTs, one for each brick. I'm not sure about good rise and fall times..

I will not use phase lead for now so I need to care about voltage spikes over the brick. I was think something like 500ns of rise (-24v to 24v) and 300ns of fall (24v to -24v). The system will run at 40khz. What you think about?
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dude_500
Mon Sept 26 2011, 08:32PM
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That should be fine, that equates to about 2% rising and around 1.5% falling which is well within the acceptable range for a DRSSTC since you will be switching ZCS (presumably this is for a DRSSTC). If you were to use a phase lead you might want to push it even faster (although you wouldn't be required to, I just like to switch in <100ns on a phase lead since the switch ringing is nearly eliminated, so why not reduce losses that much more... but switch ringing also usually becomes worse with faster switch times so without phase lead you need to balance what you gain by what is lost).
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Gregory
Mon Sept 26 2011, 08:57PM
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Thanks! I will try 10R or 4,7R gate resistor and see what happens..
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Kizmo
Tue Sept 27 2011, 06:20AM
Kizmo Registered Member #599 Joined: Thu Mar 22 2007, 07:40PM
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Some scope shots from my coil. CM300DY-24H full bridge, phase lead driver.


1317104150 599 FT124969 Cm300gate60khz

If my memory serves right im using 5ohm gate resistors bypassed with ultrafast diodes for faster turn-off. Single GDT is used.



1317104149 599 FT124969 340vdc1200a


This thing has been pushed to 1800Amps and and i have popped 16A breaker several times without killing IGBTs. And there is almost no heat at all (igbts have only 25mm tall heatsink and fan and it gets luke warm)
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Gregory
Tue Sept 27 2011, 09:41PM
Gregory Registered Member #2922 Joined: Sun Jun 13 2010, 12:08AM
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Ohh, thanks for your waves! hehehe. I see you have a big rise, ~1us and a 500ns fall.. but you are using phase lead.. I will try to get some times like it! Thanks!

And, for protection of the igbts at flash-over or primary strikes, I putted one 470nF capacitor at -Vbus to the RF ground. Are you using some capacitor here?
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