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Fukushima caesium leaks 'equal 168 Hiroshimas'
Daily Telegraph 25 Aug 2011
Japan's government estimates the amount of radioactive caesium-137 released by the Fukushima nuclear disaster so far is equal to that of 168 Hiroshima bombs.
Government nuclear experts, however, said the World War II bomb blast and the accidental reactor meltdowns at Fukushima, which has seen ongoing radiation leaks but no deaths so far, were beyond comparison.
The amount of caesium-137 released since the three reactors were crippled by the March 11 quake and tsunami has been estimated at 15,000 tera becquerels, the Tokyo Shimbun reported, quoting a government calculation.
That compares with the 89 tera becquerels released by "Little Boy", the uranium bomb the United States dropped on the western Japanese city in the final days of World War II, the report said.
The estimate was submitted by Prime Minister Naoto Kan's cabinet to a lower house committee on promotion of technology and innovation, the daily said.
The government, however, argued that the comparison was not valid.
While the Hiroshima bomb claimed most of its victims in the intense heatwave of a mid-air nuclear explosion and the highly radioactive fallout from its mushroom cloud, no such nuclear explosions hit Fukushima.
There, the radiation has seeped from molten fuel inside reactors damaged by hydrogen explosions.
"An atomic bomb is designed to enable mass-killing and mass-destruction by causing blast waves and heat rays and releasing neutron radiation," the Tokyo Shimbun daily quoted a government official as saying. "It is not rational to make a simple comparison only based on the amount of isotopes released."
Government officials were not immediately available to confirm the report.
The blinding blast of the Hiroshima bomb and its fallout killed some 140,000 people, either instantly or in the days and weeks that followed as high radiation or horrific burns took their toll.
At Fukushima, Japan declared a 20-kilometre (12 mile) evacuation and no-go zone around the plant after the March 11 quake and tsunami triggered the world's worst nuclear accident since Chernobyl 25 years ago.
A recent government survey showed that some areas within the 20-kilometre zone are contaminated with radiation equivalent to more than 500 millisieverts per year – 25 times more than the government's annual limit.
Japan's government estimates the amount of radioactive caesium-137 released by the Fukushima nuclear disaster so far is equal to that of 168 Hiroshima bombs. Fukushima caesium leaks 'equal 168 Hiroshimas'
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Bored Chemist wrote ...
Would anyone care to compare the magnitudes of the diprotium monoxide releases from the stricken plant with those from the atom bomb?
Including the weather anomalies following the explosion, or just from the explosion itself? We need to do something about this dihydrogen monoxide problem though, seriously, they find this stiff in EVERY cancer cell ever recorded.
And yea, comparing the amount of cesium is completely useless.
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The trouble is that diprotium monoxide is very useful. Both the US and USSR space programs used it; they considered it important enough to ensure that supplies of it were taken into space even though that's horribly expensive.
Incidentally, practically nobody ever cared about Cs from atom bombs- they were to busy dying.
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Bored Chemist wrote ...
The trouble is that diprotium monoxide is very useful. Both the US and USSR space programs used it; they considered it important enough to ensure that supplies of it were taken into space even though that's horribly expensive.
Remote diagnosis via the internet is fraught with difficulties and drawbacks, yet when we look at the florid symptoms - the inappropriate emotional reactions, the soggy blunted intellect, the banal content of thought, the twitchy writing style, and flatulent attempts at humour, who could fail to think of hydrocephalus?
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According to the latest reports some areas around Fukushima are likely to be uninhabitable for decades due to Cs137 contamination.
The proven fact that Tepco covered up numerous safety violations casts doubt on the entire nuclear industry in Japan, and elsewhere.
I cite the infamous "iceberg theory".. i.e. if you find something bad that is being covered up, the extent of the problem is ofen 10 to 100 times worse.
Now it seems that the entire seafood industry in the U.S. may be at risk due to ocean currents.
September 1, 2011 at 7:57 pm
I wonder if the fallout travelling via the ocean’s currents will affect the vast crab-fishing regions of the Bering Sea and those hard-living fishermen featured on ‘Deadliest Catch?†Their produce is snap frozen and shipped to all parts of the globe……another disaster unfolding?
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