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Chris Russell
Thu Jun 29 2006, 03:07AM Print
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I had always heard this was true, but I finally decided to see for myself. If you look at the song "Tubular Bells," recorded by Mike Oldfield in 1972, supposedly it picked up some interference from the nearby VLF transmitter in Rugby, known by the call letters GBR.

So, when I broke it down, I got the attached result. The code starts right when the song starts, and says VVV GBR. I haven't had much luck reading the rest, as the music covers much of it, and there's not much point in reading an encrypted transmission.

Anyone else remember any instances of hidden messages accidentally appearing in music? Share them here.
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Part Scavenger
Thu Jun 29 2006, 05:31PM
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One of the Beatles' records is supposed to have "Turn me on dead man!" in one of the songs if played backward. (Sorry I don't remember which one.)
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the_anomaly
Thu Jun 29 2006, 07:14PM
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I just saw something like this on mtv. Turns out that Queens made a song that goes "Another one bytes the dust" and that played backward says "smoke marijuana". rolleyes
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Noelle
Thu Jun 29 2006, 08:22PM
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Some useful links on this subject:
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Never come across any accidental hidden messages myself, just deliberate ones.
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Alex
Thu Jun 29 2006, 10:59PM
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Yvan eht nioj, yvan eht nioj!
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Cesiumsponge
Fri Jun 30 2006, 04:44AM
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Much of the "backwards subliminal messages" heard in music are coincidental and is similar to looking at clouds for pictures or TV interference, or searching for codes in Biblical text (or any sufficiently long literary work). Also I recall seeing several papers or journals that state reverse subliminal messages embedded in reverse cannot even be unscrambled by the brain.

Many people purposely go looking for them in heavier music genres so they can claim its evil. I think Chris is talking about actual unintentional mistakes where something or someone is mixed into the soundtracks by accident, such as background noise or whatnot.
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benbradley
Sat Jul 01 2006, 03:55AM
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Noelle, the Wikipedia link has more listings of backward recordings than I thought existed! I remember "Gotta Find A Way" playing on "underground FM" radio (WPLO), and heard the backwards voice during the organ solo, but never knew what it said until I recently got the LP and played a digital recording of it backwards.

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Much of the "backwards subliminal messages" heard in music are coincidental and is similar to looking at clouds for pictures or TV interference, or searching for codes in Biblical text (or any sufficiently long literary work). Also I recall seeing several papers or journals that state reverse subliminal messages embedded in reverse cannot even be unscrambled by the brain.
There was recent movie "white noise" about EVP, Electronic Voice Phenomena, based on the idea that you can hear voices in the noise from an off-channel TV or FM radio, or the tape noise from a tape recorder. I find this idea completely off the wall.

For reverse messages, I recall a guy who was on Art Bell in the late '90's, I also think this is too 'out there' to have any merit (I listened to Art Bell's show for entertainment purposes only), but his website is easy enough to remember:
Link2

And just doing a little more surfing, all this stuff is well documented on Wikipedia.


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Anyone else remember any instances of hidden messages accidentally appearing in music? Share them here.
This isn't really a "message," but I've read in a recording newsgroup (rec.audio.pro) that many commercial CD recordings made in the US have a 15,750 Hz tone, many dB down, but visible in a high-resolution FFT. Those who recognize the frequency may have already figured it out, but it's the horizontal flyback frequency of a television running in the studio, and either picked up electromagnetically in the cables and circuitry, or acoustically by the microphones themselves.
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