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M.A.D.
Thu Aug 11 2011, 05:46AM Print
M.A.D. Registered Member #4052 Joined: Thu Aug 11 2011, 04:43AM
Location: IN ,USA
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I was thinking about building a very small coil (3/4'' diameter secondary) with a synch rotory gap (with brushes of some sort do to the low voltage)

I have a transformer from some sort of battery charger that I recently rewired to run backwards and submerged in oil. the transformer was rated at (120v in at 50mA : 4.8v out at 350mA) I am limiting the current with a 60 watt lightbulb so it now has (120v in at 500Ma) does this mean that it is running at (3,000v and 71mA) ?

also if my math is correct on the transformer, is this even a possible tesla coil design?
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Dr. ISOTOP
Thu Aug 11 2011, 06:24AM
Dr. ISOTOP Registered Member #2919 Joined: Fri Jun 11 2010, 06:30PM
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I very vaguely remember a post about a brushed SGTC; the verdict was performance was low.
At such low powers, you are better off looking into solid state.
Also, running 120V into a coil wound for 4.8V on an iron-cored transformer is very likely saturating the core, which causes your output voltage to be far below what the turns ratio would predict.
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M.A.D.
Thu Aug 11 2011, 01:11PM
M.A.D. Registered Member #4052 Joined: Thu Aug 11 2011, 04:43AM
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thank you,

I was wonering about the core saturation. is there any way to prevent or decrease saturation?

I did look into solid state but truthfuly I am not sure that I understand it well enough, and I do not have any of the equipment to tune it in properly.

also if this transformer can not be modified to work, is there some other type of very small non-solid state transfomer that could be used?

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Forty
Thu Aug 11 2011, 04:45PM
Forty Registered Member #3888 Joined: Sun May 15 2011, 09:50PM
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You should be able to find plenty of info on here about tiny tesla coils. One of them even uses camera flash transformers. just look through the tesla forum for "tiny." If you can't find anything helpful (unlikely) then I'll look into it for you.

"Now I am become Forty, the destroyer of transistors."
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M.A.D.
Fri Aug 12 2011, 03:25AM
M.A.D. Registered Member #4052 Joined: Thu Aug 11 2011, 04:43AM
Location: IN ,USA
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I was looking through the forum and I had an idea,

could I use a vacuum tube as an arc gap? not a true VTTC, the tube would just replace the gap as a high voltage switch

the rest of the coil's circuit would be the same as a in rotary coil. I would just have to trigger the tube to ''fire'' at the peak of the AC voltage when the capacitors are charged.

if I had a small negative DC current going to the tube's grid (10 volts or so) with another transfomer wired in parallel with it providing AC current (about 10.5 volts), then as the AC voltage risses it will eventualy overcome the DC supply. Thus changing the tube's grid from negative to positive and allowing it to conduct.

the only problem is that it will only fire 60 times a second, but I am not trying to set any spark length records.

has this ever been done before? ....and if so was it succesful
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