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Adam Munich
Tue Aug 09 2011, 10:59PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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First of all, how bright are you expecting the screen to be? These screens don't exactly glow like an LCD screen!

And I agree your problem is likely voltage drop under load. A CW multiplier is what you need for this task, one powered by a flyback + ZVS.
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climatex
Thu Aug 11 2011, 12:56PM
climatex Registered Member #2012 Joined: Sat Mar 07 2009, 10:22AM
Location: Slovakia
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Thanks y'all for providing me with hints. :)

Grenadier, of course I don't expect the screen to be shining with great brightness and contrast of the final picture (I've tried to make x-rays formerly, with tubes like DY86, heated 6BC-1s and alike, with a long-exposure 5-10sec photo, and never got anything good). However in this case when a real tube is used, I've expected at least something "real time", like a fluoroscope, or so. My screens are of the "Corinex Rapid" brand, year 1996 or so, sensitivity 800. They were always enclosed in a cassette and now they're a little brownish in color, but I hope they didn't age or lose their x-ray intensifying layer (I dunno if this could be possible at all).

But I think we are all right on the voltage drop. I'm currently re-working my ZVS driver for two DST flybacks with their secondaries in series. I still have an AC flyback lying around here somewhere, however it would be more difficult to get parts for a good high voltage multiplier, then dipping it in hot paraffin and alll that stuff to prevent corona and/or arcovers... (If the two flyback thing succeeds I'll submerge them in oil, it would be easier no-doubt than messing with multipliers).

If you have any objections or hints to the twin DST ZVS setup, then please feel free and post them here. :)

Best regards climatex
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radhoo
Thu Aug 11 2011, 08:57PM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
Location: Romania
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In some of my tests, several rectifier tubes have been "abused" to make them emit x-rays. The best choice seems to be the Russian 2x2, although some DY86's emit enough radiation to make a fluorescent screen glow, on 15sec exposure pictures: Link2
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climatex
Thu Aug 11 2011, 09:06PM
climatex Registered Member #2012 Joined: Sat Mar 07 2009, 10:22AM
Location: Slovakia
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Nice pictures man. I had never luck with rectifier tubes and I've built many high votlage supplies. Never attempted to multiply a ZVS-driven AC flyback though, thats for sure.

Hope this twin flyback thing works... will work on it the next days.
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