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Tetris
Sat Jul 23 2011, 10:03PM
Tetris Registered Member #4016 Joined: Thu Jul 21 2011, 01:52AM
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Looks like one of Nikola Tesla's big coils miiaturized.
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Patrick
Sat Jul 23 2011, 10:08PM
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radhoo wrote ...

@Patrick: I used ExpressSCH. It comes in a bundle with ExpressPCB
TY! thats what i wanted to know.
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Xray
Sat Jul 23 2011, 10:57PM
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radhoo wrote ...

@Xray: actually there is an easy way around that, probably you've all seen self-powered little radios using just a few components. would love to see your project, but since it was long ago, you probably don't have any pics.

Yeah, that was a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago, indeed! Sorry...
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Mattski
Sat Jul 23 2011, 11:05PM
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radhoo wrote ...

Thanks for the feedback, guys, I was about to think you're all away on some exotic holidays, drinking cocktails and having fun cry
I have been swamped with work of late and not off on holiday, though I still manage to drink a few cocktails and have fun wink

wrote ...
@haxor5354: all electromagnetic waves (radio, light, X-rays, etc.) obey the inverse-square law. so yes, distance can be a problem.
This is operating with near field magnetic coupling rather than radiation I believe so you're actually worse off, the magnetic field from a current loop tends to decay with 1/r^3 rather than 1/r^2. Maybe take some readings of voltage on your load at measured distances, though I'd use a high power resistor rather than the lamp as the resistance of an incandescent bulb can change dramatically as it heats up and cools down.
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radhoo
Tue Jul 26 2011, 01:51PM
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Mattski wrote ...

This is operating with near field magnetic coupling rather than radiation I believe so you're actually worse off, the magnetic field from a current loop tends to decay with 1/r^3 rather than 1/r^2. Maybe take some readings of voltage on your load at measured distances, though I'd use a high power resistor rather than the lamp as the resistance of an incandescent bulb can change dramatically as it heats up and cools down.
A very good suggestion, so I will do this as soon as I get the next time slot for this experiment. Too many things to do, too little time.
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radhoo
Wed Mar 07 2012, 02:34PM
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I was wondering how to change this oscillator to a low power variant, good for charging phones. Suggestions?
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Inducktion
Wed Mar 07 2012, 03:27PM
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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Increase the number of primary turns. It decreases current draw from what I've seen. I've gotten draw as low as 1 amp with around 5 + 5 turns on my mini ZVS wireless transmitter.... I assume if you add even more you'd get even lower draw. You'd have to experiment though!
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radhoo
Wed Mar 07 2012, 07:07PM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
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Yes, that will probably work, but I am open to other designs as well, as the royer oscillator might not function properly for lower voltages, unless I change the mosfets for BJTs.

On the other hand I need to go down scale, so the diameter of the coil needs to be reduced as well.

From what I understand, the diameter of the coil has a DIRECT impact on the transmission distance. How to overcome that? Any ideas?
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Inducktion
Wed Mar 07 2012, 08:12PM
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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I think you'd have to use some chip to generate "negative" resistance if you're using a royer at lower voltages... something like what's on page 14 on here; Link2
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radhoo
Thu Mar 08 2012, 09:16AM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
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Thank you for the idea. But it might be overkill, trying to fit the design into something it wasn't ment for.

On the other hand, I'm considering something like this:
Link2

To charge batteries, there is no need for high amounts of power, but a longer range and free angle positioning would be an advantage.
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