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implimenting voltage modulation of zvs driver for plasma speaker usage?

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alf
Mon Jul 11 2011, 08:09PM Print
alf Registered Member #3925 Joined: Fri Jun 03 2011, 10:50AM
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hey,

how do i modulate the supply to the zvs driver, to use it as a plasma speaker?
and im gonna use seperate supplies, so should i modulate the 12v oscillator input to the circuit, or the power input?

thaanks. Alf.
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Arcstarter
Mon Jul 11 2011, 08:52PM
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You'd modulate the power input. To modulate it you have to modulate the voltage, how you do this is up to you. It could be a simple transistor burning off half of the wattage as heat, or a PWM buck converter with something like 80-95% efficiency (depending on design). There are many ways to do it.
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alf
Sat Jul 16 2011, 05:37PM
alf Registered Member #3925 Joined: Fri Jun 03 2011, 10:50AM
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Arcstarter wrote ...

You'd modulate the power input. To modulate it you have to modulate the voltage, how you do this is up to you. It could be a simple transistor burning off half of the wattage as heat, or a PWM buck converter with something like 80-95% efficiency (depending on design). There are many ways to do it.


thanks :D

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Shrad
Sun Jul 17 2011, 10:28AM
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you could use the input inductor to modulate input by making a transformer out of it and feed the primary with an audio amplifier (or do the same with the flyback primary, who knows)
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Weston
Mon Jul 18 2011, 06:45AM
Weston Registered Member #1316 Joined: Thu Feb 14 2008, 03:35AM
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You can use the input inductor as part of a buck converter. You only need one added power mosfet and a power diode. Its a commonly used configuration in florescent backlight inverters. See figure 2 in this pdf for ideas Link2
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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Jul 18 2011, 10:26AM
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This will not work well, the series inductor will act as a low pass filter cutting the treble. And if you try to interrupt the supply current too fast, a huge voltage spike appears. It would help to put a reverse diode across the input.
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Myke
Mon Jul 18 2011, 08:26PM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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In the diagram, there is a reversed diode but still, it would cut the treble of the sound because it takes a while for it to start oscillating and also a bit of time to stop. I think for CCFL inverters, they don't modulate it with a high freq. It's probably only enough so that your persistence of vision has just made it smooth. Otherwise they might run into efficiency issues with switching it too fast.
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Weston
Tue Jul 19 2011, 12:23AM
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CCFL inverters switch the mosfet as part of a buck converter a bit below the royer oscilator opperating frequency (usually above human hearing). The circuit is a modified buck converter. Because the ZVS driver or royer oscilator are current fed, you can PWM its input choke directly to change the average current (buck converter). The buck converter stage and the royer oscillator share the same inductor. This eliminates the filter cap after the output of a conventional buck converter, and the input choke for the ZVS driver that would be required for a completely separate buck converter stage to be used.

I do not believe that the PDF I linked to has the driver circuitry for the buck converter shown in the referenced diagram. However, the design should be very similar to that of a conventional class D audio amp, and there is many circuits online to look at.

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