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Linas
Sat Jun 25 2011, 08:05PM Print
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
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Hello.
is it really possible to make good quality CT scanner by using high quality X ray beam, green intensifying screen, stepper motor with low angle/step ratio, good quality camera and every thing synchronized by uC.
Question just one, is it possible to make high detail pictures with intensifying screen in short time, if yes, how ?
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Adam Munich
Sat Jun 25 2011, 08:39PM
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Well if you were to make it, I'd bet you'd be the first in the world to DIY such a thing!

Problem with an intensifying screen is that the light is dim, so you need long exposures. If time isn't an issue you could certainly make the machine, but if you need to make an exposure in x amount of seconds you're SOL.
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Proud Mary
Sat Jun 25 2011, 08:51PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Linas wrote ...

Question just one, is it possible to make high detail pictures with intensifying screen in short time, if yes, how ?

Intensifying screens are the imaging technology of the last century, and not worth developing into a system, any more
than some new refinement to 35 mm film technology.
Resolution is inherently poor and noisy. Images are acceptable for macro imaging - 1:1 - but beyond this
you have what is called 'empty magnification' in microscopy - i.e. the images increase in size, but no
new details are revealed.


It's your own responsibility to know and follow the radiation safety regulations in your own nation or jurisdiction, so keep your dosimeter calibration certificates up to date! smile
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Linas
Sat Jun 25 2011, 08:55PM
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
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Grenadier wrote ...

Well if you were to make it, I'd bet you'd be the first in the world to DIY such a thing!

Problem with an intensifying screen is that the light is dim, so you need long exposures. If time isn't an issue you could certainly make the machine, but if you need to make an exposure in x amount of seconds you're SOL.
i can easy boost my X ray machine power loosing high energy photons to 500W or so, with good camera i should get nice pictures and fast.
but what about details ? i guess shorter is better, but i get less energy photons, and as far as i know, high energy high detail.
and what about tube_object, object_screen distance ? does any one have a theory then the best picture is produced ? ( or should i do it hard way by experiments ill )
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hboy007
Sat Jun 25 2011, 09:02PM
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how about an array of scintillator/WLS fibers that end up glued to a CCD camera sensor at one end?
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Linas
Sat Jun 25 2011, 09:06PM
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
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hboy007 wrote ...

how about an array of scintillator/WLS fibers that end up glued to a CCD camera sensor? at one end?
or just get good and thin layer intensifying emulsion on CCD sensor, but i need to get good camera, and also get emulsion for high detail conversion.That sounds expensive frown
also, i will get 3x3xZ cm active scanning space, that is not very good, but acceptable mistrust
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hboy007
Sat Jun 25 2011, 09:15PM
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Well, scintillator fibre could be arranged as a line of pillars that harvest several radiation lengths. As a bonus, photon yield drops for oblique angles, damping secondary and tertiary radiation a bit.
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Adam Munich
Sat Jun 25 2011, 09:16PM
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If you intend to use a CCD, even DSLR cameras have relatively small ccds so yes you will have a small scanning space.

You'll also have to make a lead pinhole to take advantage of that small space, because x-ray tube focal spots are relatively large. A lead pinhole will allow for sharper images at the expense of increased exposure time.
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Linas
Sat Jun 25 2011, 09:20PM
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Is quite easy then you have right equipment smile

Hm, what kind of sensor he used ?
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Adam Munich
Sat Jun 25 2011, 09:32PM
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A $7,000 sensor! Link2
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