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What things have gone wrong with ferrites

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Thomas W
Fri Jun 17 2011, 10:12PM Print
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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hi 4hv,

i have a question for all the ferrite transformer winders here
Ive been talking to a somewhat expert in the field of high frequency and high voltage
including ferrite transformers

i have been informed that ferrite transformers can do into a avalanche effect causing meltdown or even the explosion of the transformer
have any of you ever seen this happen

also people who have failed in winding their transformers and other things they have done
it would be a brilliant help to everyone if everyone reports there fails and how they have sorted it out
remember people learn from failures

and i really want to learn :)

thanks,
Tom Williamson
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Finn Hammer
Sat Jun 18 2011, 12:11AM
Finn Hammer Registered Member #205 Joined: Sat Feb 18 2006, 11:59AM
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Tom,

Permeability in a ferrite core drops above a certain temperature, so if the core gets any hotter, then inductance drops too, current goes up and soon the whole caboodle has gone puff.
But remember, it is from your _own_ mistakes you learn, so you have to study, experiment, fail -and try to learn from it!

Cheers, Finn Hammer
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Dr. ISOTOP
Sat Jun 18 2011, 08:16AM
Dr. ISOTOP Registered Member #2919 Joined: Fri Jun 11 2010, 06:30PM
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The only problem I've run into is secondary flashover; I've found that big plates on the ungrounded end of the secondary help greatly to solve this problem.
Alternatively, use tall cores and leave plenty of space on the ungrounded end, or throw the whole thing in oil (or vacuum pot in wax/epoxy).
Inverter going poof and letting out magic smoke is, from my experience, the bigger worry, as it is much harder to troubleshoot than transformer going poof.
Also, don't try to wind transformers for absurd voltages.
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Shrad
Sat Jun 18 2011, 10:14AM
Shrad Registered Member #3215 Joined: Sun Sept 19 2010, 08:42PM
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a misplaced gap can also prove nasty

I had a ferrite go mad at throwing little racing sparks between the two facets of a gap that formed on one leg of an E core, particularly hot sparks and the totality of the ~1cm² area was arcing

not to mention if the windings were potted with wax... ^^
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