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Chip Fixes
Fri May 06 2011, 01:06AM Print
Chip Fixes Registered Member #3781 Joined: Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:25AM
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Ok so after ruining several 555 timers I have come to the conclusion that the 6, 9, and 12 volt PSU's that run off of the mains are crap. Thus far I have been running my plasma speaker off of a 12v computer PSU and it has worked just fine. The only problem is that a computer power supply is big and bulky and I would like to downsize. Does anyone know of anything else that would work? prefferably the size of a laptop power supply or smaller
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magnet18
Fri May 06 2011, 01:07AM
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how bout a laptop power supply?
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Chip Fixes
Fri May 06 2011, 01:08AM
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will that work as well as the computer one if it's rated at 12v?

EDIT: I borrowed my monitor PSU and that worked but not as well as the computer one, it's 12v 4.7A, do I need more amperage??
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James
Fri May 06 2011, 02:39AM
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Quite possibly. Flyback drivers that I've been playing with can draw up to 10A or so depending on the voltage and length of the arc.
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Chip Fixes
Fri May 06 2011, 02:45AM
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ah that makes sense, thanks. Oh one more question, the reverse voltage spikes are so great that after about 30 seconds my breadboard starts melting D: at the Gate, Drain, and Source points. I'm guessing because the wires are to small so there is to much resistance. can I just parallel like 3 small wires to each connection or do i need to make a custom breadboard with thick leads?
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magnet18
Fri May 06 2011, 03:24AM
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Maybe putting some UF4007's or similar in reverse across the lines to ground and +12V would short the spikes to ground or +12 and prevent the problem?

and you probably need more current, 10A oughta do 'er, if you can't find a laptop power supply with that much output you might try a 12V wall wart.
The problem with the one you were using was probably because it was switchable, those are usually junk, try one that only puts out 12V with ample current, I know they're out there.

Or you might consider a voltage regulator to help.
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James
Fri May 06 2011, 04:51AM
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That's gonna be a BIG linear regulator to handle 10A.

Are you sure the breadboard isn't melting due to heat from the mosfet itself? Without a snubber especially it will dissipate a lot.
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Chip Fixes
Fri May 06 2011, 11:18AM
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yeah, im sure, the fet has about a foot of wire seperating it from the breadboard
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magnet18
Fri May 06 2011, 11:27AM
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Have you scoped it?
It might not be the spikes, it could just be the large current.
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Sulaiman
Fri May 06 2011, 12:39PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Have you considered a 12 volt battery?
(VRLA, car, NiMH, LiPo etc.)
Good for short term high power.
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