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Check out my new PSU! (fixed variac)

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magnet18
Tue May 10 2011, 02:59AM
magnet18 Registered Member #3766 Joined: Sun Mar 20 2011, 05:39AM
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Alright, I got one working like a charm, but the second one only works when the variac is turned past 70% or so, I'm pretty sure it's the variac, since outside of that (once it's turned past that spot) it works perfectly, and it definitely has power, it's not a slow climb to normal, it's either good or bad.

I cleaned the variac with an eraser, didn't seem to make much difference, looking at the contacts it looks like the silver coating has been worn off and it's down to the copper wire, and the brush (not sure exactly what it's called) is pressed against it fairly loosely.

I can provide more close-ups if you want.

Any ideas?
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James
Tue May 10 2011, 08:49PM
James Registered Member #3610 Joined: Thu Jan 13 2011, 03:29AM
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Well you can test the variac easily enough, just monitor the AC voltage out of it. It's a simple enough device, so troubleshooting should not be too difficult. My guess is the loose brush is the problem. Given the wear on the track (which should not be a problem) my guess is the brush is simply worn out. If you can find a similarly sized carbon brush from a motor or something you can probably file it down to fit.
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magnet18
Wed May 11 2011, 12:37AM
magnet18 Registered Member #3766 Joined: Sun Mar 20 2011, 05:39AM
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Righty, theres the loose brush which I'll replace, and theres also a second inner slider track that gets the power to the output line, and it looks pretty darn dirty and slightly bent, so I'll look at that too.
Both require disassembly... woot tongue
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magnet18
Wed May 11 2011, 10:48PM
magnet18 Registered Member #3766 Joined: Sun Mar 20 2011, 05:39AM
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Dangit, 3 phase motors don't have carbon brushes, do they frown
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Turkey9
Thu May 12 2011, 01:00AM
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
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You can usually buy those brushes at the local hardware store. They are supplied for DC motor replacement parts.
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magnet18
Thu May 12 2011, 01:45AM
magnet18 Registered Member #3766 Joined: Sun Mar 20 2011, 05:39AM
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My local hardware store is half an hour away... I guess I'll pick one up this weekend when I get some wood to build the rack for these things.
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Ash Small
Thu May 12 2011, 02:05AM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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Not sure if you've solved the rectifier problem yet, but old 12V motorbikes, etc often have these (12 V, reasonably high amperage).

Some are the type with plates for cooling, others are potted, with a metal plate in the back which usually bolts to some form of heatsink (often just a metal surface on the frame, or something). Your local japanese bike breakers should be able to help here if you don't want to 'splash out' for a new one.

EDIT: 12V barrery chargers also have them, but they tend to be lower amperage. (depends on rating of charger)
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magnet18
Thu May 12 2011, 02:48AM
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Thanks, I'll keep that in mind, I have a computer and 2 CRT's to take part, so hopefully I'll find one in there.
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magnet18
Tue May 17 2011, 02:46AM
magnet18 Registered Member #3766 Joined: Sun Mar 20 2011, 05:39AM
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Alright, got a rack built!

Now I just need to get power management on it tongue

Think I overdid it? it's 2x2's, 2x4's, and half inch plywood...
at least it will survive an EMP

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magnet18
Thu May 26 2011, 10:29PM
magnet18 Registered Member #3766 Joined: Sun Mar 20 2011, 05:39AM
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Right, got it fixed, I disassembled the variac and cleaned all the contacts (primarily a wavy copper ring that was really dirty) using sandpaper, an eraser, and acetone. Now it works lke a charm cheesey
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