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royer Oscillator by Marko

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zesla
Mon May 02 2011, 11:42AM Print
zesla Registered Member #3857 Joined: Sat Apr 30 2011, 10:16PM
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Hello guys,

I need an expert in the field to explain me the theory of the Royer oscillator in the bellow link (the first post by Marko I mean):

Link2

Actually I read the whole above thread and could not understand how the circuit does oscillate (and how do the diodes force one fet on while the other one is off. Yes actually I know how diodes and fets work (I am not able to analyses the voltages and the functioning of te circuit for a cycle))

Sorry but I tried a day searching via the net For theorys behind the Royer oscillators, specially the oscillator designed by Mrko but it seems there is so a few info regarding such oscillators, so I tried to start this thread becuase I am sure there are good experts in this forum to explain the marko's design to me.

Thanks a bunch and any help is very welcomed.
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Myke
Mon May 02 2011, 01:17PM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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Bjorn did a simulation of the ZVS flyback driver once. This may help make it make sense.
FooblehT

The gates are pulled down by the LC tank through the diodes making the FET turn off. As the voltage swings around, the other FET turns off that was previously on. Since the voltage on the first FET's gate is no longer pulled down, it charges back up through the pull up resistors.
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zesla
Tue May 03 2011, 12:12AM
zesla Registered Member #3857 Joined: Sat Apr 30 2011, 10:16PM
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Thanks but Actually the waveforms in your pic seem to not be clear, I don't know where do those waveforms refer to in the circuit?!

Actually I meant this circuit:
Link2

Please tell me how it does oscillate for the first time after turnning it on and then for acycle please.
The other question is that I want to know what will happen to the back EMF generated by RFC's after the related FET is off for part of a cycle?

Thanks a bunch

P.S what's the output voltage the LC tank in the said circuit and why? Somebody told me that it is pi*Supply!?
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Ash Small
Tue May 03 2011, 08:50AM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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zesla wrote ...

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Please tell me how it does oscillate for the first time after turnning it on and then for acycle please.
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One MOSFET switches on before the other due to tolerances in the components used. This initiates the oscillation.
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zesla
Tue May 03 2011, 08:42PM
zesla Registered Member #3857 Joined: Sat Apr 30 2011, 10:16PM
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Ok thanks But waht about the bellow question:

""what's the output voltage the LC tank in the said circuit and why? Somebody told me that it is pi*Supply!?""
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James
Tue May 03 2011, 08:51PM
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That's my recollection. I know it's about 3x the supply voltage, I haven't measured it precisely to know whether it's pi, but that sounds reasonable.
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zesla
Tue May 03 2011, 08:57PM
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Actually I dont know why is it 3 or 4 times than the power supply??!
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zesla
Tue May 03 2011, 09:12PM
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by the way Marko used a capacitor bank for the tanks section of it's design, is every body Able to say me the reason of using a PARALLEL capacitor bank please?

Thanks
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Marko
Tue May 03 2011, 10:19PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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zesla wrote ...

by the way Marko used a capacitor bank for the tanks section of it's design, is every body Able to say me the reason of using a PARALLEL capacitor bank please?

Thanks

Hi,

that one is simple enough - caps are used in parallel to boost the overall current rating. Several lower capacitance caps in parallel dissipate power better than one big cap, and also have more leads to spread the 20A+ RF current over.

Cheers,

Marko
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zesla
Tue May 03 2011, 10:35PM
zesla Registered Member #3857 Joined: Sat Apr 30 2011, 10:16PM
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Hi marko,

Thanks a bunch for your post,
Is the output current very much so that we need a parallel bank cap?

Actually I am not able to see the reality of pi*supply for the tank yet?!

thanks again

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