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Renesis
Thu Apr 07 2011, 12:28PM Print
Renesis Registered Member #2028 Joined: Mon Mar 16 2009, 08:13PM
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Internet hacking for dummies dead

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Killa-X
Thu Apr 07 2011, 03:16PM
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Please don't tell me im the only one who thinks 3 years in jail is extremely stupid. From what it sounds like, she was just digging and oops, I hit a cable. I think it would be appropriate to mark such things, yet in other ways I understand why they dont because then people might purposely do it. I dont know. I just think the jail thing is a little overkill, especially for a old lady that has no idea what she really did.

I know one shouldn't be digging looking for copper wires anyways, as they can be live power ones. But still.
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haxor5354
Thu Apr 07 2011, 08:12PM
haxor5354 Registered Member #2063 Joined: Sat Apr 04 2009, 03:16PM
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an entire country running on only 1 fiber optic cable?
how do they know where the cable has been broken through?
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Killa-X
Thu Apr 07 2011, 08:36PM
Killa-X Registered Member #1643 Joined: Mon Aug 18 2008, 06:10PM
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haxor5354 wrote ...

an entire country running on only 1 fiber optic cable?
how do they know where the cable has been broken through?

I would guess maybe someone saw her digging and just brought it up to the police, else maybe they traced it from their records and found her digging in the general area of the cable.
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Chris Russell
Thu Apr 07 2011, 08:50PM
Chris Russell ... not Russel!
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Killa-X wrote ...

Please don't tell me im the only one who thinks 3 years in jail is extremely stupid. From what it sounds like, she was just digging and oops, I hit a cable. I think it would be appropriate to mark such things, yet in other ways I understand why they dont because then people might purposely do it. I dont know. I just think the jail thing is a little overkill, especially for a old lady that has no idea what she really did.

Doesn't look like it was an accident. The article says she was intentionally digging for wires and such, and intended to steal the severed cable as well (which is why she severed it). Three years seems a little more reasonable if you're talking about someone who intentionally dug up and severed a wire with intent to steal, rather than a granny who accidentally cut a wire while weeding her garden.
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klugesmith
Thu Apr 07 2011, 09:34PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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haxor5354 wrote ...

an entire country running on only 1 fiber optic cable?
how do they know where the cable has been broken through?

1. The higher levels of the Internet are not as grid-y as one might expect. Within the last few years there was a broken telephone pole that cut off service to most of a state in the northern US.
And in 2008 a dragging boat anchor broke -two- submarine cables, causing major outages in countries from North Africa all the way to India.
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2. Time Domain Reflectometry with an optical front-end.
[edit] IIRC, the return loss from a silica-air interface (such as broken fiber) is about 20 dB.
In pluggable fiber connectors, the mating surfaces are polished with a convex radius, and held together with enough normal force that there is no air gap.
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