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Coronafix
Thu Mar 31 2011, 10:42PM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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EDIT: I apologise to the OP if my comments are too far 'off topic'.

I don't mind if this discussion wishes to progress into the other areas you wish to take it, as the question has been answered for me.
In fact I am interested in the current discourse although I can not contribute.
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radiotech
Thu Mar 31 2011, 10:56PM
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The old elephant which has vanished , although still here
is the definition of charge.

" The excess or deficiency, of (electrons) ON A BODY "

A dielectric may or may not be be between two bodies
being referenced. If it is, each (new body) or part thereof
will have a charge by induction from the outer bodies (plates).

A charged dielectric, sans plates, is an electret.


The elephant was here before electrons were discovered,
shocking, huh?
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klugesmith
Thu Mar 31 2011, 11:39PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
Location: Los Altos, California
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radiotech wrote ...
The elephant was here before electrons were discovered,
shocking, huh?

Yeah.
I like to remind people, especially electronics students who think of current in terms of the electron flow direction:

Capacitors and dielectric polarization were studied for 150 years before electrons were discovered.

Without knowing that "charge" was carried by moving subatomic particles
(usually the kind with a negative charge -- who would have guessed?),
scientists and engineers and businessmen established international standard volts, amperes, and ohms.
Ordinary people were paying bills for AC electricity and digital telecommunication services.
Electrostatic machines and electromagnetic motors had been known for generations.

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