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Conundrum
Fri Mar 25 2011, 06:54PM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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This seems to resemble an amplifier, but using the HV secondary of the coil as a resonant feedback with the resistors setting the DC bias level to slightly turn on the gate.

Interesting circuit though.

Can't say I've run into this one before, usually they need feedback windings as well.

-A
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Mar 25 2011, 09:37PM
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It seems to rely on the capacitance between the windings of the transformer - a practically unusable circuit...
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Mattski
Sat Mar 26 2011, 01:16AM
Mattski Registered Member #1792 Joined: Fri Oct 31 2008, 08:12PM
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It could be relying on the leakage inductance of the secondary and the capacitance of the MOSFET gate to set the frequency of oscillation. I'd also be somewhat skittish about connecting the HV return directly to the gate of the MOSFET, I like to keep low voltage as separate as possible from high voltage.
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Mar 26 2011, 10:48AM
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The secondary is connected to primary with just one connection = the only current that can flow is from capacitive coupling...
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Ash Small
Sat Mar 26 2011, 01:15PM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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When I first looked at the circuit I thought 'That's clever'. Then I looked again and thought 'Hang on, the base of the secondary won't go negative until the MOSFET is switched off'.

I've read a bit on leakage inductance (Wikipedia, etc.) but that doesn't really explain what exactly is happening here.

Are you saying that when current begins to flow in the primary, the base of the secondary goes negative, pulling the gate of the MOSFET negative? if so, how exactly?
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Proud Mary
Sat Mar 26 2011, 03:21PM
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I'm prepared to believe that under certain circumstances the output might be fed back to the input 180° out of phase, the basic condition required for oscillation.

The author writes of "some kind of delay between each pulse which is sent to the primary coil" which might suggest squegging or other disruptive oscillatory form.

The statement that the circuit will oscillate at 30kHz, I take with a pinch of salt. What are the frequency determining elements? It might well work with the components and physical layout the author has used, but not with others.

As for frequency stability, it looks like a bit of a wanderer to me.



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