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RF PCB: Hooking up an SMA/BNC

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Patrick
Mon Feb 28 2011, 10:50PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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coillah wrote ...


You said a few inches of coax, can I do up to .5m? .8m?
I may need to see your setup, but at 0.5m youll need to buy your SMA coax from mouser or whoever, or maybe radioshack rg59, bnc - bnc cable, with the ends cut off and solderd. 0.5m is probably ok, but remember your addding 2.77pF per inch of radioshack BNC-coax. if your capacitence cant be charged then youll lose the ability to transmit, in the mW power range, such loading must be considered.

Maybe if this doesnt work youll have to move the transmitter to the antenna location, and the try serial data across the large distance.

I presume your in the O'connell building often?
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Mattski
Tue Mar 01 2011, 01:55AM
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Patrick wrote ...

coillah wrote ...

You said a few inches of coax, can I do up to .5m? .8m?
I may need to see your setup, but at 0.5m youll need to buy your SMA coax from mouser or whoever, or maybe radioshack rg59, bnc - bnc cable, with the ends cut off and solderd. 0.5m is probably ok, but remember your addding 2.77pF per inch of radioshack BNC-coax. if your capacitence cant be charged then youll lose the ability to transmit, in the mW power range, such loading must be considered.
As long as the coax is 50ohm impedance then the actual capacitance of the cable doesn't matter, since it's balanced out by the right amount of inductance so the impedance is 50ohm. But your signal loss will increase with distance, any cable you buy should be specify loss in dB/meter or dB/foot at various cardinal frequencies.

Since 400MHz is pretty low frequency even with relatively cheap cable you can probably get only 1dB of loss in a 1meter cable which will reduce your range a bit but it will still work fine.
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Patrick
Tue Mar 01 2011, 04:16AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Yes I should have said that differently Mattski. I realise the deal with coax being L and C compensated, but there is some loading (or at least ive seen some by some means or another) of weak signals, at the mW power he must be carefull the Sparkfun and other "FCC Part 15"compliant devices can get finnicky if you lengthen stuff carelessly. He must be careful and wise about the route, path, terminations and the rest of it.
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coillah
Sun Mar 06 2011, 05:05AM
coillah Registered Member #1517 Joined: Wed Jun 04 2008, 06:55AM
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Yes, I spent a lot of time in O'Connell in the past. Lately I just work on the fourth floor in Dr. T's lab.

I am going to do my best to make the antenna as close as possible to the receiver, but in some designs I have no choice but to run up to .5m or more.

Sounds like this is pretty straightforward though. Cool to see someone from CSUC on here. When did you graduate?
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Patrick
Sun Mar 06 2011, 05:26AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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coillah wrote ...

Cool to see someone from CSUC on here. When did you graduate?
Havent. cheesey Still an Undergrad, (EE), working with Professor Dale Word, I am trying to get authorized to start a CSU Chico Flight Team for entry in the 2012 International Aerial Robotics Competition. (IARC) Though Dr. Ghandakly and the Dean havent signed off yet.
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coillah
Sun Mar 06 2011, 05:33AM
coillah Registered Member #1517 Joined: Wed Jun 04 2008, 06:55AM
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Then I must know you... or have seen you... weird...
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Patrick
Sun Mar 06 2011, 05:37AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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cheesey
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