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mmt
Sun Feb 20 2011, 03:03PM Print
mmt Registered Member #2333 Joined: Thu Sept 03 2009, 03:04PM
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Hi all,
I am going to finish my first big drsstc using IGBT bricks, and i want to make sure everithing is done right.
Whole setup is made exactly according to these combinated steve's schemes below, (i wasnt able to build UD.1 or 2 for many reasons...) My choices are to use one of these two halfbridge IGBTs: CM300DY-24NF or BSM75BG120DN2, the bus voltage will be doubled to about 520VDC, it will all run at about 70-80 kHz, wich IGBT will be better for my setup?
Also i want from you guys, to look at the schemes, design and let me know if is OK to run this coil.

thx. smile
-Martin

1298214073 2333 FT0 Drsstcfinal

1298214073 2333 FT0 Bigg Drsstc Body Finish
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Goodchild
Sun Feb 20 2011, 04:47PM
Goodchild Registered Member #2292 Joined: Fri Aug 14 2009, 05:33PM
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My personal favorite would have to be the CM300DY-24NF the NF series if fairly fast and I think would run nicely at 70-80Khz
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mmt
Sun Feb 20 2011, 06:34PM
mmt Registered Member #2333 Joined: Thu Sept 03 2009, 03:04PM
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Hi Goodchild,
thx for your opinion,
and what do you think about schemes, there are several unusual things like:

the supply voltage of UCCs and OCD section is 15V (against UD1,2 there is 9V)
24V zener diodes on IGBT gates
1,5uF/1000V IGBT snubber capacitor
8:8:8 turn GDT

would you thing some of these can be a problem ?
/i'm asking that because these parameters are not so common as most of you uses/
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Goodchild
Sun Feb 20 2011, 07:11PM
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That all looks ok to me, I like to use at least 10 turns on my GDT and usually 30v TVS on the gates, the 24V zeners I can see kinda clipping the drive signal because of it being right at 24V, but that not to big of a deal.

And one last thing, you don't really need the TVS across the bus, they don't really do much if you have a good bus layout and snubbers.
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Bennem
Sun Feb 20 2011, 07:59PM
Bennem Registered Member #154 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:28PM
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mmt wrote ...


the supply voltage of UCCs and OCD section is 15V (against UD1,2 there is 9V)



I would supply your UCCs with 9 volts.
Steve chose 9 volt drive for a reason, he had problems with other voltages.
He stated this as an answer to a similar question....

"Ive had this P/N driver work OK with fairly different P and N fets. I found that the drive voltage for them was fairly sensitive, and that lower drive voltage (lower than the 9V i suggest) can sometimes help avoid cross-conduction even better."

Hope it helps,
Mel
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mmt
Sun Feb 20 2011, 08:14PM
mmt Registered Member #2333 Joined: Thu Sept 03 2009, 03:04PM
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thx for reply,
can i just change my L7815 for 09, or does have to be 15v in the OCD section?
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mmt
Tue Mar 08 2011, 07:21PM
mmt Registered Member #2333 Joined: Thu Sept 03 2009, 03:04PM
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ok, so i've changed voltages on ucc's to 9V.
I ran whole system, but the driver just wont oscillate, everything i get on on Gates is this waveform.

plz help
1299612045 2333 FT109097 Image
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Gregory
Wed Mar 09 2011, 12:00AM
Gregory Registered Member #2922 Joined: Sun Jun 13 2010, 12:08AM
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Are you testing with all together? bridge, primary tank.... if yes, try to reverse the fb, primary.. try all configurations.. if not, your circuit will not oscillate with note a feedback signal, put a 3v square wave using a function generator
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mmt
Wed Mar 09 2011, 06:51PM
mmt Registered Member #2333 Joined: Thu Sept 03 2009, 03:04PM
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thx for reply,
Yes, i was testing all together and alredy tried to change feedback polarity.

So I put on FB IN some square wave and finally get something usefull on IGBT Gates.
But of course i want to run my coil from a primary feedback, so where else could be a problem?
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Gregory
Thu Mar 10 2011, 01:17AM
Gregory Registered Member #2922 Joined: Sun Jun 13 2010, 12:08AM
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If with a FB IN it worked, the problem can be your FB CT , your interrupter or your circuit isn't get easy to start the oscilation
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