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Part Scavenger
Sat Feb 18 2006, 03:58AM
Part Scavenger Registered Member #79 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:35AM
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Me either. Confustication!
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HV Enthusiast
Sat Feb 18 2006, 04:23PM
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ELECTRICAL QUIZ 3

This box has two lamps and a single push button. The lamps are labeled A and B. It is connected to a battery source. Lamp A is illuminated and lamp B is not.

When one pushes and holds down the button, lamp B is illuminated and lamp A is off. When the button is released, the lamps return to the previous state.

The lamps are normal 12V filament light bulbs. The button is an SPST, normally open momentary pushbutton.

There are only passive components in box. (No transistors)

Can you draw the circuit???
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Feb 18 2006, 04:56PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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This should work, assuming the battery can supply enough current:

1140281746 152 FT1067 Q1
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c4r0
Sat Feb 18 2006, 05:05PM
c4r0 Registered Member #151 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 02:53PM
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Can there be a relay?
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HV Enthusiast
Sat Feb 18 2006, 06:21PM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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wrote ...

This should work, assuming the battery can supply enough current:

Lamp B would never really light if R1 is a very low value, but you are on the right track . . .

wrote ...

Can there be a relay?

No, all components must be passive - a relay is an active device.
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Avalanche
Sat Feb 18 2006, 06:45PM
Avalanche Registered Member #103 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:16PM
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Is this along the right lines, or am I just having a muppet moment?

Of course it probably won't work as it is, because it depends on voltages etc to saturate the diodes...




1140288317 103 FT1067 Av Quiz1
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Marko
Sat Feb 18 2006, 06:49PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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As stated battery must supply enough current, dissipation on the resistor would be high but we have what we want confused ?



Resistor does not need to be of very small value, just needs to be small enough for bulb to light.
Assuming other bulb would fry or needs to give same amount of power as first we can just place another resistor in series with it...

If there is a problem of R1 being too high and lighting the bulb B a diode can be used to prevent it, now it will turn off bulb A when shorted but taster will connect B to gnd and it will light up...

Here is real, practical schematic that could be made without high-current or ideal sources...







1140288550 89 FT1067 T
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Feb 18 2006, 07:09PM
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cheesey cheesey cheesey


1140289690 152 FT1067 Q2
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Avalanche
Sat Feb 18 2006, 07:14PM
Avalanche Registered Member #103 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:16PM
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Rofl that cracked me up at first, but come to think of it, there is such a thing - bimetallic strip! tongue
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Marko
Sat Feb 18 2006, 07:21PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Rofl also good idea that with fuse...

But it does not usually restore instantly, and maybe is even not alowed (as some kind of active conponent confused )
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