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testtest
Sat Jan 15 2011, 11:33PM
testtest Registered Member #3271 Joined: Mon Oct 04 2010, 02:29AM
Location: Canada
Posts: 159
I had good success using a dab of Apiezon vacuum grease on the threads during the assembly. Better than epoxy if you plan changes later on. For leak testing acetone works well in the 1 to 50 mTorr range with a themocouple gauge and can sometime seal the leak until it warms up again.
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GluD
Sun Jan 16 2011, 12:34AM
GluD Registered Member #1221 Joined: Wed Jan 09 2008, 06:17PM
Location: Odense, Denmark
Posts: 196
Hey guys

Thanks for the advice but I already glued it together so I'll just have to hope its sealed up nice and tight!
That device 'neon John' has made there seems rather complicated.

Im planning to make a nice wooden box to contain the brass and a HF HV power supply, so if everything goes as planned it wont be necessary to take the fittings apart.

Hopefully I wont need the tips for finding leaks now its all epoxied but thank you anyway cheesey
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GluD
Mon Jan 17 2011, 04:39PM
GluD Registered Member #1221 Joined: Wed Jan 09 2008, 06:17PM
Location: Odense, Denmark
Posts: 196
Hello

I have the most wonderfull news!
I sealed it up with loctite epoxy(its called 3422 A&B in case you were wondering) the other day, and the system apears to be completely air tight. Yesterday at around 1300hours I pumped it down to 50mbar and left it there until today at 1400hours, and the pressure apeared unchanged amazed

Today I put some new oil in my vacuum pump, and it can now pump it down so far that it goes off the scale at my stupid analog manometer!
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Conundrum
Mon Jan 17 2011, 07:57PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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nice!

-A
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plazmatron
Thu Jan 20 2011, 06:00PM
plazmatron Registered Member #1134 Joined: Tue Nov 20 2007, 04:39PM
Location: Bonnie Scotland
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The epoxy I used was "Hysol 1C" AFAIK it is exactly the same composition as torr seal.

It is available in the US, but it seems to be no longer obtainable in the UK anymore.

Les
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Turkey9
Thu Jan 20 2011, 08:39PM
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
Location: Boulder, Co
Posts: 661
Good job! Now all you need is an additional gauge to read the pressure once it pegs your analogue one.
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GluD
Sat Jan 22 2011, 02:25AM
GluD Registered Member #1221 Joined: Wed Jan 09 2008, 06:17PM
Location: Odense, Denmark
Posts: 196
Thank you


I dont think it will be necessary with an accurate measure of the exact pressure? I just have to know if the system is leaking and have a way to determine how much Argon is added so I can reproduce it, and for that the silly analog meter I got is fine I think.

I have already made a pretty glow discharge in the flask. Later today I will fill in a small amount of Argon and see how that'll do.
If the results are good with my system I will probably buy some Neon, perhaps some Krypton or Xenon but I heard the last two are very expensive.

I also plan to wind my own high frequency transformer on a flyback core when I get some suitable wire. But I suppose that is for another thread.
I'll make a projects thread when I have made more progress.
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