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High Frequency Rectifier Diode ?

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HV Enthusiast
Tue Jan 11 2011, 04:53PM Print
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I'm looking for a diode capable of rectifying at 4MHz and wanted to see if anyone here had experience with diodes that could meet those requirements. (It must also be a thru-hole diode)

Basically, the only diodes I know of are the classic 1N5711 types or 1SS106/8, but these are only good for 15-30mA current max. I'm looking for something with a little more oomph.

I think some schottky's like the 1N5819 may work, but based on their junction C and reverse recovery (which i didn't think really applied with schottkys) seems to say otherwise.

What are your thoughts?
Thanks
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Luca
Tue Jan 11 2011, 05:09PM
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Schottkys have no recovery charge...

Datasheet of 1N5819 reports: "Rectification efficiency measurements show that operation
will be satisfactory up to several megahert"

I would try with this device, or other similar schottky junctions.

Regards

Luca

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Tue Jan 11 2011, 06:09PM
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Thanks Luca!

I guess the only trade-off with those would be the amount of junction capacitance.
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Luca
Tue Jan 11 2011, 08:40PM
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EastVoltResearch wrote ...

Thanks Luca!

I guess the only trade-off with those would be the amount of junction capacitance.


The junction cap is in the range 50-100pF.
You can simulate your circuit with an ideal diode //capacintance to see if rectification efficiency is accepatble for your application.

If you do not need 1A, probably you can find schottkys rated few hundreds of mA which have less junction capacitance.

Regards,

Luca
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GeordieBoy
Wed Jan 12 2011, 12:09AM
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Hi Dan.

Schottky diodes should work fine rectifying 4MHz. Is this for a power supply application? If so, a soft-switching design will be easier on the rectifier diodes. A 4MHz sinewave is a lot easier to rectify cleanly than a 4MHz squarewave because of the lower dv/dt around the turn-on and turn-off points. A 4MHz hard-switched SMPSU would be very hard on the rectifiers.

-Richie,
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Wed Jan 12 2011, 02:11PM
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GeordieBoy wrote ...

Hi Dan.

Schottky diodes should work fine rectifying 4MHz. Is this for a power supply application? If so, a soft-switching design will be easier on the rectifier diodes. A 4MHz sinewave is a lot easier to rectify cleanly than a 4MHz squarewave because of the lower dv/dt around the turn-on and turn-off points. A 4MHz hard-switched SMPSU would be very hard on the rectifiers.

-Richie,

Hi Richie,

No, this is just for a very simple wireless-energy transfer demonstration i'm cooking up for some students. Basically, i'm running a Class-E coil at 4MHz, and then have an identical resonator about 1-2 feet away in which i'm tapping off the primary, rectifying it, and then feeding it to illuminate about 10 LEDs in series.
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Sulaiman
Wed Jan 12 2011, 10:05PM
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10 leds in series <= 35 V... full-bridge of 1N4148.

I've done this at 145 MHz !

(5W 2m FM handheld transceiver with simple wire resonant-dipoles for Tx and Rx, though I only used a single led)
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Adam Munich
Wed Jan 12 2011, 10:20PM
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600V, 4A, 13ns recovery time. Link2

Good enough 4 ya?
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ScotchTapeLord
Thu Jan 13 2011, 12:14AM
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Grenadier, that has a 200ns forward recovery time...

I'd definitely give the 1n4148's a shot like Sulaiman said, though, since you most likely already have some lying around.
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Adam Munich
Thu Jan 13 2011, 02:10AM
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Ahh, I didn't see the forward recovery time...

Hmm, schottky may be the way to go then.
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