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How to build a less louder spark gap tesla coil(and some other problems)

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hsieh
Sat Dec 25 2010, 01:53PM Print
hsieh Registered Member #1412 Joined: Thu Mar 27 2008, 04:07PM
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I want to build some tesla coils but SSTC is too complex for me.I'm now experimenting with a very small SGTC powered by a moniter flyback.The sound from my spark gap is so loud that my families are angry.I live in an apartment so the noise might disturb other people.

I use a monitor flyback to charge three 8KV 0.1UF capacitor(they are connected in serial).my primary has 4 turns(solenoid) and my secondary has 1000turns of 0.35mm wire.I wound them on a 11cm pvc water pipe.

The spark gap fires every 0.5~1 seconds(approx).So far it didin't produce any spark.
I tried to add or remove some primary turns but this dosen't work.
How can I fix it?

Thanks
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william L
Sat Dec 25 2010, 02:54PM
william L Registered Member #3093 Joined: Mon Aug 09 2010, 11:40PM
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Have you tried tuning your coil? Your capacitor seems way too large
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ubuntupokemoninc
Sat Dec 25 2010, 06:29PM
ubuntupokemoninc Banned on 1/22/2011 for repeated rule violations after multiple warnings.
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Build a vttc, they have sparks like a sstc but with only 5 components!
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Dr. ISOTOP
Sat Dec 25 2010, 08:56PM
Dr. ISOTOP Registered Member #2919 Joined: Fri Jun 11 2010, 06:30PM
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Tune your coil and decrease your tank capacitor size; you'll get more sparks and a quieter gap (less energy per bang).
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hsieh
Sun Dec 26 2010, 01:18AM
hsieh Registered Member #1412 Joined: Thu Mar 27 2008, 04:07PM
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bwang wrote ...

Tune your coil and decrease your tank capacitor size; you'll get more sparks and a quieter gap (less energy per bang).

I choose this size(0.033uF) according to the calculator on"deep fried neon"site.

What size should I use now?

And I think MOT is too dangerous for me.Can I use a flyback or a ignition coil to power a VTTC?
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Adam Munich
Sun Dec 26 2010, 01:32AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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The spark gap is responsible for a lot of the noise. Maybe you could enclose it somehow?
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Dr. ISOTOP
Sun Dec 26 2010, 03:01AM
Dr. ISOTOP Registered Member #2919 Joined: Fri Jun 11 2010, 06:30PM
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The calculator on deepfriedneon is for AC charging; it doesn't hold for DC charging sources like a flyback. You definitely want more than 1 bps in a tesla coil.
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Dr. Dark Current
Sun Dec 26 2010, 09:47AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Firstly increase the power into your flyback, or build a better driver.
I think you should use more than 4 primary turns, I would wind a 10-15 turn tappable primary.
To make the spark gap quieter you can put it in some kind of enclosure, but it must be at least a bit ventillated otherwise gasses will build up which can prevent it from operating correctly.
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quicksilver
Sun Dec 26 2010, 05:57PM
quicksilver Registered Member #1408 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 03:49PM
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The quietest one I have made was not only enclosed but had 5 through 7 gaps (depending upon tune). I put a duct in one area & if the overall design was for a lower current it seems fine for a few minutes. I think you may only run into problems if the coil is a larger one or if the enclosure is quite tight. A single gap will generally always be loud.
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