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cavemen
Thu Dec 23 2010, 02:49AM Print
cavemen Registered Member #2008 Joined: Tue Mar 03 2009, 05:11AM
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well
when it comes to building an electronics project on some protoipe board or the PCB
it is usually a disaster for me

One nig reason is that the radioshack soldeirng iron tips get eroded by the solder very quickly.
I am not getting it. Seems like the rosincore solder does it.

I heared about ceramic tips for soldering irons but never found one on the internet

Plus i don't want to buy into anything expensive.

After i dropped a lot of money on another screwup, I realized i need an improvement for my soldering technology.

Need your advice.
Thanks.
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klugesmith
Thu Dec 23 2010, 03:10AM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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Any soldering iron tip with exposed copper will rapidly be eroded by molten solder, with or without flux.
Most commercial tips are thickly plated with iron or similar metal, so can fairly be called irons. smile
To clean or modify such a tip using a file is asking for trouble.

What's your budget?
Temperature-regulated soldering irons are nice,
but you can do OK with (say) a basic Weller WP25 or WP30
or (for about $45 new) a variable-temperature station like WLC-100.
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rp181
Thu Dec 23 2010, 03:22AM
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Did you file it to clean it? I did that once, but it will not work past a couple of joints. Get a soldering station, and normal use with a sponge will make it much easier, I was surprised at the difference it made.
This is a great station:
Link2
My only complaint is the rather thin sponge supplied.
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cavemen
Thu Dec 23 2010, 06:12AM
cavemen Registered Member #2008 Joined: Tue Mar 03 2009, 05:11AM
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I have a two-temperature soldering station. The tips are expensive because it is radioshack.
I had the tip erode.

Never filed the tip because they are coated in something.
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cavemen
Thu Dec 23 2010, 06:16AM
cavemen Registered Member #2008 Joined: Tue Mar 03 2009, 05:11AM
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Is this a ceramic tip?

I am still not sure how many copper tips i would need to buy to build one circuit. Is there a way to make them last longer?
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cjk2
Thu Dec 23 2010, 07:45AM
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Get a Weller or Hakko. I have used the same tip in my WES51 for 5 years or so with no trouble. Use a sponge and/or brass cleaner for the tip.
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Conundrum
Thu Dec 23 2010, 07:52AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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i use a temperature controlled station from CPC.
The bits on these last virtually forever, only thing is the elements are delicate.. last about a year though.

-A
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Bjørn
Thu Dec 23 2010, 09:15AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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Is this a ceramic tip?
That looks quite like the tips for my soldering station. I think it is the heating element that is ceramic.

All tips will slowly be eaten away so don't leave the iron turned on when you are not using it. It is also a function of temperature so don't use higher temperature than you need.
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Steve Conner
Thu Dec 23 2010, 09:28AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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cavemen wrote ...

I am still not sure how many copper tips i would need to buy to build one circuit. Is there a way to make them last longer?
A good quality tip should last months, if not years of daily use: tens of thousands of solder joints.

But once the iron plating wears through, the solder attacks the copper inside and the tip just disintegrates. There is no such thing as a ceramic tip, they're all made of iron-plated copper.

A temperature-controlled iron will have its tip last longer than an ordinary one. It doesn't get any hotter than it needs to, and most of them also turn the temperature right down if you leave them in the stand for 10 minutes.
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Plasmana
Thu Dec 23 2010, 12:22PM
Plasmana Registered Member #3108 Joined: Thu Aug 12 2010, 05:37PM
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Klugesmith wrote ...

To clean or modify such a tip using a file is asking for trouble.

I have learned that the hard way by using sand paper to sand off the burnt-on plastic from my tip angry
Is there any good tips for cleaning off plastic from irons? At the moment i am using my x-acto blade to scrape off the plastic.

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