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Electric Man - Claims he's a human electrical conductor.

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Xray
Mon Dec 13 2010, 10:44PM Print
Xray Registered Member #3429 Joined: Sun Nov 21 2010, 02:04AM
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Google "Electric Man" and you will get a lot of YouTube videos and websites about a man from India named Rajmohan Nair. He was featured on The History Channel's "Stan Lee's Superhumans". as well as a handful of other TV appearances. He claims that he can conduct high voltage/high current AC through his body to power such things as electric lights, heating elements, and electric motors. His demonstrations are impressive, but through the eyes of an experienced electronics buff like myself, I know that there has to be a trick to it.

Here is one of his YouTube videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph3lSTPYF7I

This is how I believe he does it: He obviously cannot conduct 10 Amps of current through his body to heat an electric hotplate, but I know of a simple way that this trick can be done. He probably uses an opto-isolator driving a triac. The input circuit to the opto-isolator can be designed so that only very low voltage and current can trigger the circuit. The triac is what switches the high current device on and off, while his body receives only a few volts at a few microamps.

I'd like to hear what others think of this guy.


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Arcstarter
Tue Dec 14 2010, 05:55AM
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Xray
Tue Dec 14 2010, 06:02AM
Xray Registered Member #3429 Joined: Sun Nov 21 2010, 02:04AM
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Arcstarter wrote ...

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Yup, that was me! cheesey
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Patrick
Tue Dec 14 2010, 06:18AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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yes, i agree he cant possibly be conducting high current through his body while the greater Voltage drop remains across the appliance (needed to transfer reasonably high power). so i too suspect a small current is used to sense and switch the real circuit, however, without seeing him do this in person--certainty cannot be assertained. though i would like to see ammeter placed by me or another credible person in series with the wires in contact with his body, that would confirm or bust wether real power is going through his body.

I highly suspect this to be bogus.

also, i doubt at 120V, 10amps, that it would be the hot plate doing the cooking, i think more likely it would be his own organs, shortly before he croaked.
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Xray
Tue Dec 14 2010, 06:31AM
Xray Registered Member #3429 Joined: Sun Nov 21 2010, 02:04AM
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Patrick wrote ...

yes, i agree he cant possibly be conducting high current through his body while the greater Voltage drop remains across the appliance (needed to transfer reasonbly high power) so i too suspect a small current is used to sense and switch the real circuit, however, with out seeing him do this in person certainty cannot be assertained. though i would like to see ammeter placed by me or another credible person in series with the wires in contact with his body, that would confirm or bust wether real power is going through his body.

I highly suspect this to be bogus.

also, i doubt at 120V, 10amps, that it would be the hot plate doing the cooking, i think more likely it would be his own organs, shortly before he croaked.

The truly sad and dangerous thing about this is the fact that TV shows, such as Stan Lee's Superhumans, promote this kind of trash as being authentic. The young man who investigated this guy (I recall his name was Danial) obviously knows little about electricity, and came to the conclusion that Electric Man is truly a Superhuman person. During his investigation, Danial went to a local hardware store and purchased a cheap multimeter. He then went back to Electric Man's home and confirmed that his Mains were actually the voltage what was claimed ( I don't recall if it was 120V or 240V), which of course says nothing about the devices that Electric Man was demonstrating. He also measured Electric Man's body resistance by placing the meter leads in each hand. Danial then commented, "You have TEN TIMES the resistance of other people!". Well, if he did in fact have ten times the body resistance of other people, then he couldn't possibly pass enough current to energize those high wattage devices.

Also, Electric Man used his own personal demonstration equipment. If I were the one interviewing Electric Man, I would have purchased a hotplate from the locale Walmart, and placed Mr. Electric Man in series with the power cord! I doubt that he would be smiling then! suprised
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radiotech
Tue Dec 14 2010, 07:09AM
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What if the resistance between the two contact points was
reduced so the path conductor heat dropped to a value
akin to a pair of electric socks. Dont ask !!
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Renesis
Tue Dec 14 2010, 03:08PM
Renesis Registered Member #2028 Joined: Mon Mar 16 2009, 08:13PM
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Yeah...

Estimated 2kW electric hotplate, 220V 1phase.

220V^2 / 2000W = 24,2 Ohm

According to the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health the resistance of a human body can be as low as 1000 ohms when wet, so sum resistance = 1024,2 Ohm.

220V / 1024,2 Ohm = 0,2A

Hotplate output: 24,2 Ohm x 0,2A^2 = 1,0W

Electric man output: 1000 Ohm x 0,2A^2 = 40,0W

Seems that egg would cook faster if he'd swallowed it cheesey

The truly sad and dangerous thing about this is the fact that TV shows, such as Stan Lee's Superhumans, promote this kind of trash as being authentic.

Dangerous is the right word. This show clearly implies that playing with electricity and high currents is perfectly safe, and particularly young people could be tempted to try this themselves. The results can easily be fatal. That, and the general dumbening effect it has on the population, is why am so deeply provoked by television shows like these.

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Patrick
Tue Dec 14 2010, 04:03PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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yeah the 1000ohms thing is about right. but remember as soon as electricity is past the skin, internal human body resistence drops further, so lets say he and the hotplate were at 25 ohms each! half the heating power across him, half across the hotplate, his body would have to dissipate all that heat !!!

we could approximate the real experiment by powering hot plate with a wet hot dog, then again with a thyrisistor his bogus way. this would show not just what would happen, but also what is happening in the clip.


Renesis' qoute
Two antennas got married, and the seremony wasn't much
But the reception was exellent!

lol, i had an EE professor who used this kind of painful humor!
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Muttyfutty!
Tue Dec 14 2010, 07:26PM
Muttyfutty! Registered Member #2915 Joined: Fri Jun 11 2010, 10:41AM
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Its funny how many people believe this...
Using high school physics:
10X resistance would mean that ALMOST NO electricity would pass... this is obviously a hoax.
If: I=V/R
V= 240
R-(Lets say 10K))=10,000
Therefore:
I= 0.024 Amps

No where NEAR enough to power a cooker!
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Arcstarter
Tue Dec 14 2010, 09:03PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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I am the opposite of what this guy is supposed to be. I can (but don't) hold 120v in my bare hands and i feel next to nothing :). But that is no miracle, i just have calluses like a fricken farmer, being the grease monkey that i am. My resistance from one palm to the other is about 1.2Mohm if i lightly touch the DMM leads, and 1Mohm if i dig the points into the skin. Pretty normal tongue.

That would mean his skin was about 100kohm... And to get that he probably washes his hands with salt water. mistrust
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