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Adam Munich
Fri Dec 03 2010, 04:25PM Print
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Just curious, has anyone eve tied making capacitors out of sheet mica? It's available online cheaply and it has a very high dielectric strength of 3kv/mil fo the average stuff and sometimes even 9kv/mil fo the premium quality stuff.

It could make fo some really nice TC capacitors. with some AgNo3 you can make you own silver mica caps!
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ScotchTapeLord
Sat Dec 04 2010, 01:14AM
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Could you give a link to a place that sells it?

My guess is that you can't entirely be sure that it is flawless enough to use as a dielectric. Any irregularities in the surface would compromise its ability to stand off high voltages, especially at radio frequencies.

It's probably worth a try, though.
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Adam Munich
Sat Dec 04 2010, 02:40AM
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This looks petty flawless, Link2

This is much more flawed, but it may work ell too. Link2

Since mica has such a high dielectric constant, it can be very thin. Thin dielectric = High capacitance. If you silver plate it then you;
A) Are as close as you can get to the dielectric (high capacitance)
B) Have very high stability.

I don't think it would take much mica at all to make a 20kV 20nf cap bank.
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Coronafix
Sat Dec 04 2010, 06:08AM
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I've tried it with the stuff like in the second link.
Works fine for line frequency HV but arcs straight through at RF.
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Adam Munich
Sat Dec 04 2010, 06:17AM
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Hmm, so who's going to try the flawless stuff then?
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Pinky's Brain
Sat Dec 04 2010, 12:57PM
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At a couple of order magnitudes in price/m2 over mylar, and a couple orders more for BOPP packing foil ... would it really be worth it?
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Adam Munich
Sat Dec 04 2010, 03:17PM
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Probably not...

Has anyone tied silver plating in capacitors though?
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radiotech
Thu Dec 09 2010, 12:50AM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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Could you somehow coat the mika with silver
vapor, perhaps by using silver electrode in an
arc that happens in a vacuum furnace?
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Adam Munich
Thu Dec 09 2010, 12:53AM
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Use AgNO3. Link2
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