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GimpyJoe
Fri Dec 03 2010, 02:52PM Print
GimpyJoe Registered Member #316 Joined: Mon Mar 13 2006, 01:30PM
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When tuning a magnifier, should I tune the primary to the frequency of the secondary and tertiary coils combined, or tune to the frequency of the tertiary coil only?
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Coronafix
Fri Dec 03 2010, 09:25PM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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Tertiary only. Secondary acts only as a step up transformer whereas tertiary acts as a resonant one.
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ScotchTapeLord
Fri Dec 03 2010, 10:50PM
ScotchTapeLord Registered Member #1875 Joined: Sun Dec 21 2008, 06:36PM
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The purpose of the secondary is to act like a step up transformer but it still has plenty of leakage inductance seeing as it only has the coupling of an air core transformer. It may be dwarfed by the tertiary's inductance but it still factors into the equation, I would think. Just not so much..
When tuning, you keep lowering or raising the resonant frequency until it works best, so if the output keeps improving as you move further out on the primary, you'll want to add more primary regardless of the exact theory behind it.

In the end I say tune it to whichever works better...
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GimpyJoe
Sun Dec 05 2010, 07:05AM
GimpyJoe Registered Member #316 Joined: Mon Mar 13 2006, 01:30PM
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Fair enough. I just didn't want to end up not having enough primary turns.
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ScotchTapeLord
Sun Dec 05 2010, 10:29PM
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Well, you should always have another turn or so more than what you calculate for tuning and toroid experimentation. That extra turn will probably account for the secondary...
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Gregory
Mon Dec 06 2010, 01:46PM
Gregory Registered Member #2922 Joined: Sun Jun 13 2010, 12:08AM
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i have questions.
1 - the coumpling between primary and secondary need to be the maximium?

2 - the distance between primary and terciary causes an effect in stream length / efficience?
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