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HazzWold 1993
Tue Nov 30 2010, 09:30AM
HazzWold 1993 Registered Member #2563 Joined: Mon Dec 21 2009, 10:17AM
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Grenadier wrote ...

Wow those are really nice. Why can't I find nice things?

like NST's at a $1 a pop?
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radhoo
Tue Nov 30 2010, 10:11AM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
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Thanks for your replies.

I don't have them here, so I'll draw the schematic later today.

It is very similar to what Ash posted, the components have different ratings. Yes it also uses TVSs.

Proud Mary, do you think oil is necessary? The boards have almost perfect soldering, to prevent corona, and they were used in the recipient shown in picture 1, under air. I have enough mineral oil, but would like to keep this clean, unless there is no other alternative.

I'd also like to build a good driver, given the fact this module has a resistive/capacitive divider to measure the output. I could use this to control the PWM signal driving the Flyback, and have something close to a regulated HV supply. Hopefully after I put the schematics we can come up with something, since I put my trust in your help. Thanks!

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Proud Mary
Tue Nov 30 2010, 10:22AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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radhoo wrote ...

Proud Mary, do you think oil is necessary? The boards have almost perfect soldering, to prevent corona, and they were used in the recipient shown in picture 1, under air. I have enough mineral oil, but would like to keep this clean, unless there is no other alternative.

In the top picture, the apparatus is shewn in a tank - an oil tank, I must suppose.


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Freitsu
Tue Nov 30 2010, 10:38AM
Freitsu Registered Member #3147 Joined: Sun Aug 29 2010, 10:53AM
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Oh man I wish I could get my hands on one of those! Only complete Glassman PSU show up on ebay and they're costing an arm and a leg.
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Steve Conner
Tue Nov 30 2010, 10:56AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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I believe Glassman power supplies are air insulated, they don't have oil in them. Link2

Nice find :)
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radhoo
Tue Nov 30 2010, 12:36PM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
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yes, only air.
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Proud Mary
Tue Nov 30 2010, 12:51PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Steve McConner wrote ...

I believe Glassman power supplies are air insulated, they don't have oil in them. Link2

Nice find :)

Can't argue with that.

But I was just eyeing up that tank as a secret stash for ma Buckie....


1291121282 543 FT0 Buckfast2



1291121307 543 FT0 Buckfast1

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radhoo
Tue Nov 30 2010, 01:00PM
radhoo Registered Member #1938 Joined: Sun Jan 25 2009, 12:44PM
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Do you think I have a chance of rebuilding a decent driver?

I read the article Steve posted, there are some details there.
The advanced diode/caps protection is in fact an array of HV Resistors in the white pipe.
The driver seems to be running directly on 220V, on a fixed frequency to drive the flyback.

I've also seen some schematics, including what Ash posted, but they a bit too complicated for what I can do. I might be able to get my hands on this module:
Link2

It is the module prior to the multiplier, but does this make things easier for me? This module on the other hand has another complicated connector.

I can drive the flyback directly, but it would be really nice to use the feedback from the HV divider to have a regulated supply, not to mention other protection mechanisms I'm not aware of (that have been designed for this supply).
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Proud Mary
Tue Nov 30 2010, 01:13PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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radhoo wrote ...

Do you think I have a chance of rebuilding a decent driver?

I read the article Steve posted, there are some details there.
The advanced diode/caps protection is in fact an array of HV Resistors in the white pipe.
The driver seems to be running directly on 220V, on a fixed frequency to drive the flyback.

I've also seen some schematics, including what Ash posted, but they a bit too complicated for what I can do. I might be able to get my hands on this module:
Link2

It is the module prior to the multiplier, but does this make things easier for me? This module on the other hand has another complicated connector.

I can drive the flyback directly, but it would be really nice to use the feedback from the HV divider to have a regulated supply, not to mention other protection mechanisms I'm not aware of (that have been designed for this supply).

There won't be anything complicated or difficult about driving those flybacks once you have transcribed the part of the circuit surrounding the transformer on the board.

I would guess that there will be a PWM feedback loop so that the output will remain stable across variable loads, and perhaps even some 'hardening' circuits to protect the module from EMP, or radiation, depending on the application.
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IntraWinding
Tue Nov 30 2010, 02:30PM
IntraWinding Registered Member #2261 Joined: Mon Aug 03 2009, 01:19AM
Location: London, UK
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Any hints as to how you found this?

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