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Corona on 750KV transmission line

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radiotech
Sat Nov 13 2010, 02:15PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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"And how do DC fields induce fluorescent lamp tubes to glow?

"

Fluorescent lamps work on DC too. There even was a Rectified
Fourescent, With an anode and filament/cathode, but it vanished
about 70 years ago. I've worked on units that use banks of DC
UV tubes:Polarity had to be flipped from time to time to even out
cathanode wear

RF here means rectified fluorescent not radio frequency.


1289657742 2463 FT100386 Fluorescent
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Plasmana
Sat Nov 13 2010, 02:54PM
Plasmana Registered Member #3108 Joined: Thu Aug 12 2010, 05:37PM
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Wow, that is amazing. I'v always wondered if corona could be seen emitting from transmission lines - Ill have to keep a look out for this phenomenon as winter is right around the corner!
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Thomas W
Sat Nov 13 2010, 03:31PM
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one word discribes it:

AWSOME
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Steve Conner
Sat Nov 13 2010, 03:40PM
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You'll be lucky if you see it in England. The highest transmission voltage we use in the UK is 400kV, and that's for the "Supergrid". 275 and under is much more common.

In a 3-phase AC system, the voltage is quoted between lines. To get the voltage from line to ground, you have to divide by the square root of three, so 400kV lines are 230kV to ground. The lines are far enough apart that it's the voltage to ground that matters for corona purposes.

I have heard a lot of noise from 132kV lines on the coast. The insulators get encrusted in salt and sizzle away nicely. (Not "nicely" from the point of view of the power company, of course.) But looking at them at night, I couldn't see anything.
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Adam Munich
Sat Nov 13 2010, 04:12PM
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I've stood 30 feet under the power lines coming out of tonowanda coal building. I'm not sure what the voltage was, but I could hear the crackling corona quite loudly and it was also pulsating at 60hz. I could also feel the field via the hairs on my arm. It was quite scary actually. I imagine they must glow like neon at night.

For those that want to determin the voltage/current: 3x 3" thick Al lines, 6 feet apart, hung from 3' insulators.
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Adam Munich
Wed Nov 17 2010, 10:11PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Hey TDU, what about putting that image on these two articles?

Link2

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Martin King
Wed Nov 17 2010, 10:54PM
Martin King Registered Member #3040 Joined: Tue Jul 27 2010, 03:15PM
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Steve McConner wrote ...

You'll be lucky if you see it in England. The highest transmission voltage we use in the UK is 400kV, and that's for the "Supergrid". 275 and under is much more common.

Pop quiz, I once stood about 2 feet away from an energised supergrid line without any special protective precautions. It was quite warm. Where was I ?

Martin.
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Martin King
Wed Nov 17 2010, 10:58PM
Martin King Registered Member #3040 Joined: Tue Jul 27 2010, 03:15PM
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Grenadier wrote ...

Wow, that's pretty cool.

A little OT, but once I heard of a guy who got free power by running lines // to the transmision lines on his property. They induced current in his lines, and since they did not cross nor contact the transmission lines it was completley legal. Smart man.

Some years ago a farmer in the UK buried a coil in a field under a transmission line and got prosecuted for stealing power. Smart lawmakers wink

Martin.
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Steve Conner
Thu Nov 18 2010, 11:52AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Martin King wrote ...

Pop quiz, I once stood about 2 feet away from an energised supergrid line without any special protective precautions. It was quite warm. Where was I ?

Somewhere you really shouldn't have been. Maybe on the roof of a house under some power lines, on a really hot day, at half-time of the Cup Final? tongue

It shouldn't have been inside one of the supergrid substations, because there are safety clearance rules in there that you're supposed to observe.

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Luca
Thu Nov 18 2010, 12:12PM
Luca Registered Member #2481 Joined: Mon Nov 23 2009, 03:07PM
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Once my hand was few cm from a conductor that was carrying 220kV... tongue

Regards

Luca
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