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Structured Light Experiments (LiDAR Attempt).

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Patrick
Fri Jun 07 2013, 07:13PM
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DSLI-2k is best, like in the XV-11, but its 45 US$ per chip.
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Linas
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Patrick wrote ...

DSLI-2k is best, like in the XV-11, but its 45 US$ per chip.
maybe the best, but what about cycle read speed ?
I need to get cycle speed of all PID loop between 100-200KHz (TSL1401 will do 62.5kHz)
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Patrick
Sat Jun 08 2013, 09:40PM
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5 uS is pretty fast, its definately the sensor aquisistion that will be the slowest part.
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Linas
Sat Jun 08 2013, 10:22PM
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Patrick wrote ...

5 uS is pretty fast, its definately the sensor aquisistion that will be the slowest part.
yes, that's why i need fast clk, maybe 2-phase readout, with 64-128 pixels, and no processing inside chip. i will have shark dsp running 400MHz to do that, coupled with 10-100MSps 16b adc
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Patrick
Sun Jun 09 2013, 12:20AM
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Linas wrote ...

Patrick wrote ...

5 uS is pretty fast, its definately the sensor aquisistion that will be the slowest part.
yes, that's why i need fast clk, maybe 2-phase readout, with 64-128 pixels, and no processing inside chip. i will have shark dsp running 400MHz to do that, coupled with 10-100MSps 16b adc
just out of curiosity, what is it your doing that needs such speed?
and yes, as youve concluded, reducing the pixel count may be the only way to really pour on the speed. you may need to parallel the low-count pixel sensors, each sensor with a channel A/D and MCU channel, to meet your needs of bandwidth.
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Linas
Sun Jun 09 2013, 07:02AM
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Patrick wrote ...


just out of curiosity, what is it your doing that needs such speed?

I am working on +-ultrafast spectroscopy,
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iliasam
Sun Jun 09 2013, 01:00PM
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What about iC-LF1401? The maximum pixel readout frequency is 5MHz. It's 2.5 times faster than TSL1401.
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Linas
Sun Jun 09 2013, 01:05PM
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iliasam wrote ...

What about iC-LF1401? The maximum pixel readout frequency is 5MHz. It's 2.5 times faster than TSL1401.

Hm, i don't think so
TSL1401CL:

1370783115 1143 FT146896 Untitled

Oh, i get myself again, as it turns out, i can't find any RL0256EEQ-011 Datasheet ( I had for D, not E series), cry dead
Any idea how to get it ? i try to contact PerkinElmer but with no result ... mad
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Patrick
Sun Jun 16 2013, 04:43AM
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a well said statement (as pertaining to the XV-11 LiDAR ):
In response to a question, as to what LiDAR really "is"...


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by chrlsrchrdsn - 12/10/2010 - 11:36pm



Either ToF or Triangulation are LIDAR. The concept is to shoot a specific beam of light from a laser (though technically you don't have use a laser, you could use something like a pinhole focused LED, but the range would be very short) then use the return from that specific beam to generate the results. Time of Flight is most commonly used until now because high speed CMOS sensors were not available in the 1990s. However precise clocks and a sensor that could tell it got hit fast enough was. After a bit, instead of using a clock you could actually read the charge level of the recharging laser pulse capacitor at the time the sensor said it was hit and give a distance reading since moving electrons and light aren't too far off in speed.


BUT now CMOS sensor of sufficient speed and with global shutter make triangulation possible. (Global shutter is a way to "gate" the picture by recording all pixels simultaneously. No having to read in the lines to get the results that could be changing as you read.) Triangulation is less sensitive to beam scatter than ToF, and triangulation can actually be more accurate for sub-mm measurement.


Okay, the simple answer, triangulation is a recognized medthod for LIght Detection And Ranging.

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