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hvguy
Mon Nov 29 2010, 09:13AM
hvguy Registered Member #289 Joined: Mon Mar 06 2006, 10:45AM
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I have two p6015s I filled with mineral oil and re-compensated about 5 years ago. I routinely use them up to ~3MHz (sine and square waveforms) with no problems. I'm currently using one to monitor pulse cap switching at 16kv and have no flash over issues. If you have a dry probe give mineral oil a shot, you can always drain it if you're not happy with the results....
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testtest
Wed Dec 01 2010, 04:37AM
testtest Registered Member #3271 Joined: Mon Oct 04 2010, 02:29AM
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hvguy wrote ...

I have two p6015s I filled with mineral oil and re-compensated about 5 years ago. I routinely use them up to ~3MHz (sine and square waveforms) with no problems. I'm currently using one to monitor pulse cap switching at 16kv and have no flash over issues. If you have a dry probe give mineral oil a shot, you can always drain it if you're not happy with the results....

I was unable to compensate mine when I tried using dielectric oil a few years ago. Unfortunately I dont remember what kind but it was meant for high voltage use. Perhaps too high a dielectric constant?

The mineral oil you used is the (non perfumed, I hope) that you can get in a pharmacy?
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teravolt
Thu Dec 02 2010, 04:25AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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Hi Patrick, I happen to talk to a pulse power engineer at work and if you have any diala oil that would work and you would have to readjust the probe. the dialectric constant is about 2
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Patrick
Thu Dec 02 2010, 04:33AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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thanks TeraVolt, i dont use the real oil, i usually just snag food oil, but thanks anyway, i bought HV resistors which will be here in 2 days, ill make my own probe, or i will buy the p0615A soon.
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Sulaiman
Thu Dec 02 2010, 08:00PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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If you can find a p6015(a) cheaply go fo it,
you would spend many many hours to get similar stability, accuracy, bandwidth, low capacitance and shielding - oh, and insulation too ;)
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Patrick
Fri Dec 03 2010, 02:32AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Sulaiman wrote ...

If you can find a p6015(a) cheaply go fo it,
you would spend many many hours to get similar stability, accuracy, bandwidth, low capacitance and shielding - oh, and insulation too ;)
ok well ill compare them and see... ive been told that the NorthStar probes are even better, and they have fewer adjustments nthen the tektronics, but ill snag a p6015 if i can.
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teravolt
Sat Dec 04 2010, 04:59AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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hi Patrick those NorthStar probes are expensive but nice. maby you are aproching this wrong what kind mesurement are you trying to make. do you want a scope tool
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Patrick
Sat Dec 04 2010, 09:49AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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yeah ive got qoutes from $1840 to $2400 for the pvm series ones.

and i need a o-scope probe w/oscope... i need to see 2 and 4 channels of 4 different signal and HV traces, so i can see arrival time and phase type relations @ sine waves and square waves at about 3000Hz - 40kHz, @20-40kV for my DeSeversky lifters graduate project.
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hvguy
Mon Dec 06 2010, 05:11AM
hvguy Registered Member #289 Joined: Mon Mar 06 2006, 10:45AM
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richnormand,

Yes, garden variety drug store mineral oil, no perfumes or colors. I recall being very near the end of the range on one of the pots...
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