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brandon3055
Wed May 23 2012, 03:45AM
brandon3055 Registered Member #4548 Joined: Mon Apr 23 2012, 03:52AM
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Newton can you leave a link to a sight explaining how to modify an MOT into a veriable reactor thanks
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Newton Brawn
Thu May 24 2012, 03:26AM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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Hi!

The alternating current reactor, also know as ballast, inductor, or even a inductance, is a coil with a magnetic core that has a small air gap.

The MOT primary coil normally is rated 5-10 amper, and the number of primary turns (120~180). This is enough to allows the core works bellow the iron saturation area when 120Vac is applied. So, the primary coil as is is suitable to work, without any modification.

Then we need to provide a air gap is adjustable (0.1 ~3.0mm) between the E and I cores. The result is a variable reluctance to the magnetic flow and a variable inductance. In this applicationthe the final effect is similar to a reostat in serie with the PT primary, allowing adjustment in the primary ac current.
The MOT modification consist in open the transformer magnetic core, remove the high voltage coil, close the core leaving a small air gap between the I and E core. In order to get good and practical core closing, the air gap may be filled up with a hard cardboard, plastic sheet, fiber material.

A tutorial explaining how to open the transformer the may be found in the site:
Link2

or read the thread "windings in a mot" , posted on march 31 2012.

(be more carefull to avoid any damage in the primary coil.)

I'd like see your solution how to provide a mechanic variation of the gap.

Regards

Newton


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Newton Brawn
Thu May 24 2012, 04:10AM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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Hi All!

I have cut the transformer core welding by hand using a arc saw, hss, not a power grinder.

When I cut the the magnetic core in order to separate the I and E cores, I do not cut exact in the midle of the welding core .

The saw open a slot 1mm out of the welding center, in such way that the E core is not damaged. only the I core receive 1.5-2 mm deep scratch. When reasembling the E core with the I core invert the I core leaving the scratch out of the main magnetic flux.

If the cut is locate in the center of the welding, both E and I cores will be scratched, resulting in a reduction of area of magnetic flow (increasing the induction in that location), possible saturation

Regards

Newton

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Newton Brawn
Thu May 24 2012, 04:15AM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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The estimate reactance is about 25 ohm for a primary coil with 150 turns and a 1mm gap,

250 ohm for a primary coil with 150 turns and a 0.1mm gap.

The core cross section in question is 25 square centimeter, 0.0025m2.
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Oneironaut
Fri Jun 22 2012, 09:15PM
Oneironaut Registered Member #3616 Joined: Fri Jan 14 2011, 08:47PM
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[Update]

I have purchased this amazing 35kv beauty, and it works perfectly...

Hv1

With a half wave rectifier, my HV probe reads 18kv, so now I need to source a bundle of HV diodes in order to make a full wave rectifier. This one has 17 diodes and is rated for 100kv....

Hv2

Does anyone know of a good supplier for HV diodes? I found Amazing1, but there most be other suppliers. I would probably need 50 or more to make a full wave rectifier capable of taking the 35kv from my potential transformer.

One more question if I may...

Not having played around with potential transformers before, is it recommended to ballast them? When I had the pole pig, I used 4 stove elements in parallel as ballast and that worked well. A half dozen 500w halogen bulbs in parallel also worked and gave visual feedback when charging the capacitors (lights dimmed as charge increased).

I don't want to cook this 150 pound potential transformer - it wasn't cheap, and from what I can tell, it was a rare find!

Cheers!
Brad


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Thomas W
Fri Jun 22 2012, 10:22PM
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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wow, i really want one of those o.o, where did you find it?
ebay?
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Oneironaut
Fri Jun 22 2012, 10:28PM
Oneironaut Registered Member #3616 Joined: Fri Jan 14 2011, 08:47PM
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Yep, EBay. I was thinking about hogging the other one for myself, but $500.00 is a bit much for a "spare"! Certainly worth the price though.

Link2

Brad
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