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60KV 3.5 nF home made caps - complete protocol

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dingo27
Mon May 12 2008, 09:44PM
dingo27 Registered Member #890 Joined: Tue Jul 10 2007, 10:06PM
Location: Slovakia
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yeah, i tried this with cover from my physics school notebook (at least notebooks have some use :) ) but i did not see that i need more plates... i used only 3 layers (foil, aluminium, foil, al, foil )... first run in TC BANG... one was good second not, but as i was not sure i disassembled both...

next day i assembled one and it is ready to test in less powerful TC i am building tomorrow...
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Mates
Wed May 14 2008, 09:43PM
Mates Registered Member #1025 Joined: Sun Sept 23 2007, 07:53PM
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OK guys, I decided to test these caps in the TC use properlly. I built this simple fly-back driven SGTC and let it run for long minutes... (min 30min total time). You can see on the picture the huge corona losses inside the caps, but the caps are still alive. The dielectric layer shows some kind of track-like pattern in the corona most exposed parts, but nothing critical. I will let them run as long as possible and then I will make detailed inspection of the PP-CP dielectricum...
cheers...
1210801410 1025 FT31873 Sgcoil
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flannelhead
Thu May 15 2008, 12:39PM
flannelhead Registered Member #952 Joined: Mon Aug 13 2007, 11:07AM
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Pretty long exposure... Was it the whole 30min? wink
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lpfthings
Thu May 15 2008, 09:54PM
lpfthings Registered Member #1361 Joined: Thu Feb 28 2008, 10:57AM
Location: Cairns, Australia
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LOL the whole caps are glowing white!!

So if i got a peice of plexiglass, stuf a peice of foil on one side, then another peice on the other side, i'd have a HV cap?!?!?
Do you only need one layer is what i'm asking lol
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Bjørn
Thu May 15 2008, 10:23PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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Yes and read this: Link2
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aonomus
Thu May 22 2008, 08:30PM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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This might seem counterintuitive, but would it not be possible to roll the caps, seal them on the hotplate, and then use a hypodermic needle to inject mineral oil in one cavity while pulling vacuum on the other end? Sure you put two holes into your dielectric, but since the cap is a big jelly roll injecting oil from the outer layer at one end, and pulling vacuum from the inner layer might work to pull a fair amount of oil in.

And something tells me those caps that were glowing white might have the foil melted to the plastic.
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Sulaiman
Thu May 22 2008, 09:00PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
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All of this is well covered in the pupman archives - if they're still available.

..just checked - they're still available.
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Dr. SSTC
Sat Jun 21 2008, 02:17AM
Dr. SSTC Registered Member #1407 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 07:09AM
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lol how about making the whole capacitor in a oil bath

na just joking
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quicksilver
Sat Jun 21 2008, 02:50PM
quicksilver Registered Member #1408 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 03:49PM
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There are several "paper covers" available. How does one tell the mylar material from others? How do you know if you have the correct material???
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Firefox
Sat Jun 21 2008, 07:51PM
Firefox Registered Member #1389 Joined: Thu Mar 13 2008, 12:50AM
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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I just made it simple and asked my science teacher for some overhead slides before I graduated. I've tested them to around 7-10kV and they work great.
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