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Proud Mary
Tue Oct 20 2009, 02:36PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Steve McConner wrote ...

Yay, do you have any in TO-36 packages? Link2

I first saw these in an old marine radio transmitter I was dismantling, there were a pair of them driving the high level modulator.

No TO-36s, Steve, I'm sorry. But some TO-3, and various tubby-looking Russian PNP germanium power types (150W) whose base numbers I couldn't even begin to guess at! You could probably get 100 SMDs into the same volume.
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Conundrum
Tue Oct 20 2009, 05:47PM
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Coronafix wrote ...

Makes me wonder how many home hobbyists give up in frustration because they can't get a circuit to work no matter how many times they check their work. And it's probably a mislabelled chip.

Indeed. Or a counterfeit one (see the other thread). Particularly bad if its an expensive chip not easily obtained, the temptation of buying them from less reputable suppliers is very high.

EPE should run another article on identifying these.

-A
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aonomus
Tue Oct 20 2009, 07:00PM
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This is the second counterfeit/labelling fail thread in a while... its starting to get quite common, and I'm weary of ebaying power semiconductors now too.

And its hard to even give one specific seller a bad rep, cause they will just reopen a new store under some other name. Perhaps we should put together a list of reputable dealers?
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Nicko
Tue Oct 20 2009, 08:14PM
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aonomus wrote ...

This is the second counterfeit/labelling fail thread in a while... its starting to get quite common, and I'm weary of ebaying power semiconductors now too.
This most definitely NOT a "counterfeit/labelling fail thread" - it's a mispacking error by one of the largest trade electronic suppliers in the world.

I doubt very much that Farnell (or RS/DigiKey/Newark etc.) would ever knowingly sell fakes - it'd completely ruin their businesses.

This is a straight QC issue.
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Proud Mary
Tue Oct 20 2009, 08:41PM
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Nicko wrote ...

aonomus wrote ...

This is the second counterfeit/labelling fail thread in a while... its starting to get quite common, and I'm weary of ebaying power semiconductors now too.
This most definitely NOT a "counterfeit/labelling fail thread" - it's a mispacking error by one of the largest trade electronic suppliers in the world.

I doubt very much that Farnell (or RS/DigiKey/Newark etc.) would ever knowingly sell fakes - it'd completely ruin their businesses.

This is a straight QC issue.


I must say, Farnell aren't cheap, but I've always found them completely reliable.
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Steve Conner
Tue Oct 20 2009, 09:12PM
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Yes, let's not accuse Farnell of selling fake components. They might not be big in the USA, but they're huge in Europe, and a preferred supplier for lots of businesses, including the university where I work, and the two places I worked before that.

But they do make mistakes. The best one I ever got was a length of tape cut from a reel that was supposed to contain 0603 ceramic capacitors. I say "supposed" because in fact it was completely empty.

Harry: You should post pix of your Russian germanium transistors trampling some SOT23s to death.
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Proud Mary
Tue Oct 20 2009, 10:49PM
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Steve McConner wrote ...

Harry: You should post pix of your Russian germanium transistors trampling some SOT23s to death.

Did I mis-hear? SOD23?
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Conundrum
Sun Nov 01 2009, 11:40PM
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its possible for *any* supplier to sell counterfeit parts by accident, it only takes one bad OEM to contaminate many parts bins.

I'd be wary of buying high value parts where there is the slightest doubt, as there is a lot of money involved.

best bet is to visually and electrically check a random sample of the component under typical datasheet conditions, and confirm it is within specs.

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Proud Mary
Mon Nov 02 2009, 03:06AM
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Conundrum wrote ...

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its possible for *any* supplier to sell counterfeit parts by accident, it only takes one bad OEM to contaminate many parts bins.

I'd be wary of buying high value parts where there is the slightest doubt, as there is a lot of money involved.

best bet is to visually and electrically check a random sample of the component under typical datasheet conditions, and confirm it is within specs.



Too small to illustrate.
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Conundrum
Mon Nov 02 2009, 09:18PM
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lol...
Needless to say, I will be double checking all new parts I get from ebay/etc to make sure they are what they appear.

i've had a few failed DIL chips before, never considered that they might have been fake/mismarked.
-A

"Bother" said Pooh, as the LHC's magnets quenched AGAIN!!!!
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