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hen918
Thu Jul 27 2017, 02:41PM
hen918 Registered Member #11591 Joined: Wed Mar 20 2013, 08:20PM
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I find it difficult to make out what is going on there. This was what I meant earlier:

1501166484 11591 FT180196 Img 0700

EDIT: Click on it to see it the right way around and a decent size.
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2Spoons
Thu Jul 27 2017, 11:30PM
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Like this. part numbers are just defaults - this is to show you the topology, you can play with all the values to get what you want.
In a real circuit I would use a 12V TVS or Zener across the gate/source of the P-fet for safety.

Note that when simulating an unstable circuit like this you may need to specify some initial conditions - most probably on the capacitor. A transient sim starts with a DC operating point calculation, and with these sorts of circuits the simulator often needs a little help.

Also - please look at the way I and other members draw circuits, and try to emulate the logical flow you see. Some of your drawings have been very difficult to interpret.

1501198209 2939 FT180196 Circuit
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Plasma
Sat Jul 29 2017, 06:42PM
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Thanks guys, I placed a p, mosfet at the top driven by a second p, fet and a voltage divider sending the signal to a noninverting comparator.
It's working like I want it. Cheers
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Plasma
Sat Aug 05 2017, 05:23AM
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My problem with the sim, I changed it to two Nmosfet with the top one driving a P. I'm still crunching data but I think this circuit is ready to test with the genny.
Will update the other thread, just not making the same ground solved it.
Thanks,
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Plasma
Sat Aug 05 2017, 05:51AM
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I don't really understand the p mosfet, if I switch off ground then both p and n won't work, if I have ground, at drain for n and source for p, then a plus voltage will open n, but if the drain on p is open circuit then how will it open.
Sorry for the basic questions but the book doesn't explain it right or its me, that part doesn't matter.
Thanks
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2Spoons
Sat Aug 05 2017, 06:41AM
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To turn on a Pch MOSFET - make the gate more negative than the source.

I find your question incredibly difficult to understand - please draw a diagram of your connections.
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Plasma
Sat Aug 05 2017, 02:53PM
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The mosfet isn't switching from 0=-13volt, it only moves about one volt.
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2Spoons
Sun Aug 06 2017, 12:49AM
2Spoons Registered Member #2939 Joined: Fri Jun 25 2010, 04:25AM
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your Pch mosfet is upside down. Source should be connected to positive rail.
The graph is meaningless to us unless you also tell us which node is being graphed. Use net labels on your schematic.

Show us Pch gate, Nch gate and capacitor voltage all on one graph. With appropriate labels.

Also its highly unlikely that a comparator will accept having its output pulled up to a voltage higher than its supply rails - thats why I put an Nch buffer in the schematic I showed you.
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Plasma
Sun Aug 06 2017, 03:53AM
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Modified it, is it ok to have two comparator like that, will there be problems with switching.


Edit
Just realised the 450kohm from the source was dropping it, changed it to275k and then 300kohm,its now 12volt.
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Plasma
Thu Aug 17 2017, 11:28AM
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The circuit works good, but I'm trying to replace the mosfet with igbt, I've downloaded a Fairchild sub for ltspice, but I'm not sure, of the overview design with igbt, any help appreciate, thanks.
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