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woodchuck
Fri Mar 31 2017, 11:52PM
woodchuck Registered Member #39190 Joined: Sat Oct 26 2013, 09:15AM
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Conundrum wrote ...

Probably why He is used in hard drives.
He is all about reducing aerodynamic drag...which reduces power consumption...which allows more storage in the same size case or, alternatively, a wider operating temperature.
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Peter
Sat Apr 01 2017, 07:55PM
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Butane is nice for many reasons and flashover inside the probe without oxygen is not a combustion hazard, however if you heat the probe the liquid butane will become a gas increasing the pressure and that could cause the probe body to rupture. So less liquid is better from a temperature-pressure prospective.

The attached patent page is all about cooling electronics. This page has a table of breakdown voltages for a few gases.

1491066916 61521 FT179355 R152 Voltage Table Us7807074


R152A (computer duster or canned air) is available in 12 oz cans for $3 in North America at 73.5psi it’s about 80% of the R114 breakdown voltage (used at the lower 32.1psi).

1491067002 61521 FT179355 R152a Pressure


SF6 at 37.8psi would have the same breakdown voltage as R114 at 31.1psi. The probe manual has an upper operating room temperature of 55C which is 58psi from the table below. The manual also references a document and by exempting class 3 the upper operating temperature is 75C, I could not find the document so the exemption might be no people around, expect the probe to catastrophically fail, single use product.

I don't know the safety factor but it was designed in the 60s when engineers used slide rules and all calculations got rounded up. I would be shocked if it was less than 1.5, and 1.5 looks suspicious considering the 75C in the manual. But if you lower the upper operating temperature you get more pressure wiggle room.


1491068211 61521 FT179355 R114 Temp Pressure

Not surprising that Tektronix picked the best gas for the job, however 50 years later nothing is better.

-Peter
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Patrick
Sun Aug 19 2018, 07:50PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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i think your better off buying a 5kv probe then using a voltage divider as HV ruthenium resistors are better and cheaper then ever.
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