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Mini induction heater IRFP460 5 MHz

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Josh Campbell
Wed Jul 25 2012, 08:33PM
Josh Campbell Registered Member #5258 Joined: Sun Jun 10 2012, 10:15PM
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Cool. At 5MHz the depth of penetration (and thus the area where I2R heating takes place) will only be a few 10s of μm depending on the R of the work piece. You can really see that in the video too. The rod appears to be heated red hot but when removed it almost immediately cools because the internal temp was nowhere near the temp of the skin. Great demo!
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Microwatt
Fri Jul 27 2012, 12:12AM
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I think you should get some litz wire.
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2Spoons
Fri Jul 27 2012, 12:50AM
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Simple. Elegant. Effective.
Bravo!
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hsieh
Sun Jul 29 2012, 12:13AM
hsieh Registered Member #1412 Joined: Thu Mar 27 2008, 04:07PM
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I build it but it don't work.It short my power supply.Did I made any mistake?
1343520774 1412 FT142264 P1020078

1343520774 1412 FT142264 P1020079
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zilipoper
Sun Jul 29 2012, 01:27AM
zilipoper Registered Member #4152 Joined: Thu Oct 20 2011, 10:18PM
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IT IS NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE BY MEANS OF THE RESONANCE OSCILLOGRAPH IN TWO CONTOURS
OR TO MAKE COMPLETELY AS AT ME shades
select capacitor a drain - the source, yet won't be a resonance
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Steve Ward
Sun Jul 29 2012, 06:09AM
Steve Ward Registered Member #146 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:21AM
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I would not use a ceramic for the drain-source capacitor, mica or PP film (something rated for large AC voltages) would be best. The 10uF supply cap, however would probably work great as ceramic or PP film.

I think also, if you couple too strongly to a resistive load, you might lower the gain of the system so much that it will not oscillate. You should be able to prevent this by over-sizing the work coil compared to the work piece, or limiting how close the work piece is to the coil.

I might also look at putting a clamping diode (15V bi-directional TVS would be my choice) on the gate-source of the mosfet for protection. This should allow you to add more turns on the feedback winding without risk of blowing out the gate. I think the capacitive coupling should still be OK, even with the clamping diodes.

If you power it up and it just shorts the power supply, then turn the potentiometer all the way to zero, then turn on the supply, they try turning up the pot to start the thing oscillating.

Also, i see no reason you cannot lower the operating frequency by making the drain-source capacitor larger, or using more turns on your work coil (and feedback coil).
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hsieh
Sun Jul 29 2012, 07:33AM
hsieh Registered Member #1412 Joined: Thu Mar 27 2008, 04:07PM
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My induction heater start working now.Something in my circuit is dead.I change it and it works.

But it is still very unstable.I have to slowly turn the potentiometer until oscillate .Sometimes I turn it off and power it up again,it don't oscillate and short my power supply.

I will try mica capacitor next time.
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zilipoper
Sun Aug 05 2012, 12:04AM
zilipoper Registered Member #4152 Joined: Thu Oct 20 2011, 10:18PM
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device according to the same scheme:-)

Single transistor class-E GENERATOR
Power supply 15V 1-5A
FREQUENCY 4mhz



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Platinum
Sun Aug 05 2012, 03:22PM
Platinum Registered Member #3926 Joined: Fri Jun 03 2011, 08:32PM
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Ahh I need a ZVS :(
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Forty
Sun Aug 05 2012, 07:17PM
Forty Registered Member #3888 Joined: Sun May 15 2011, 09:50PM
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@platinum: this isn't a zvs. as far as i know it's more of an armstrong oscillator.

@zilipoper: very cool stuff you've made here. I think I'll try the circuit out myself. As mentioned by others, the skin depth of the induction heater might be low, but it still might be useful (soldering maybe?) How many turns do you recommend for the primary and feedback in both applications?
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