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Secondary coil coating/varnish type

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Fulmen
Thu Mar 01 2012, 10:54PM
Fulmen Registered Member #3883 Joined: Fri May 13 2011, 06:30PM
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Mads Barnkob wrote ...
I can not get hold of epoxy varnish in Denmark.

Sure you can:
Link2

Great stuff, works fine for both lamination and coating.
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ajacks504
Mon Mar 05 2012, 07:08PM
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I used Humiseal 1B31. It has pretty decent dielectric properties, but the coolest thing about it is that it fluoresces under UV light, which makes it glow when the coil runs ;)
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Herr Zapp
Mon Mar 05 2012, 09:17PM
Herr Zapp Registered Member #480 Joined: Thu Jul 06 2006, 07:08PM
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Dr. Dark Current -

There's no varnish that can provide the thickness, ruggedness, insulation capabilities and appearance that can be obtained with a single coat of two-part clear epoxy. Done carefully, the finished secondary will look like it's encased in a glass sleeve. Over the past 10 years I've coated secondary coils of many different sizes with epoxy, and I'd NEVER go back to varnish.

Be careful of the type of epoxy you select. Do not use "laminating" epoxy, which is intended for use in composite construction along with layers of fiberglass, carbon, fiber, etc. The laminating grade epoxies usually do not cure to a hard, tack-free surface. You want a a material that's intended for use as a protective top-coat, and allows surfaces exposed to air to fully cure. In the US, Environmental Technonogies offers a product (Envirotex Lite) that works great. See: Link2

I've previously posted a fairly detailed procedure for preparing and applying a two-part epoxy finish, see the thread "Clear epoxy secondary coatings". About halfway down the page is my post with the link to the procedure:
Link2

Herr Zapp
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Fulmen
Thu Mar 08 2012, 09:07AM
Fulmen Registered Member #3883 Joined: Fri May 13 2011, 06:30PM
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Herr Zapp wrote ...
The laminating grade epoxies usually do not cure to a hard, tack-free surface.
I haven't tried enough different brands to say anything about them in general, but the epoxy I recommended (Biltema-brand) does cure to a hard finish eventually.
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PhilGood
Fri Mar 09 2012, 06:18AM
PhilGood Registered Member #3806 Joined: Sat Apr 02 2011, 09:20PM
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Herr Zapp wrote ...
Environmental Technonogies offers a product (Envirotex Lite) that works great.
This Envirotex Lite compound seems really interesting...

Btw thanks Herr Zapp for the detailed "How to apply" ;)

Did you happen to prepare too much and have a rest which hardens in the mixing can ? Is it still as a glass block ?

I wonder if it could be used for components molding.
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Herr Zapp
Fri Mar 09 2012, 08:49PM
Herr Zapp Registered Member #480 Joined: Thu Jul 06 2006, 07:08PM
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PhilGood -

Yes, any unused material left in the bottom of your mixing cup will harden into a clear, hard disk.

If you set up everything before hand, there's no reason not to use any residual material as a potting compound, but it's difficult to know exactly how much residual resin there'll be until you are done coating the secondary.

Herr Zapp
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PhilGood
Sat Mar 10 2012, 12:36AM
PhilGood Registered Member #3806 Joined: Sat Apr 02 2011, 09:20PM
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Sounds good, thanks Herr Zapp smile

In fact my idea is to use this compound on purpose for molding compenents.

For examples, a HV Diode, let's say we put together 100x 1N4007 in serie on two layers of 50 this way :

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we get an assembly of approx. 10 x 10 x 130 mm

molden this in a block of this coumpound and we get a very nice looking 100kV 1A Diode.

Of course I also plan to try this compound for secondaries coating wink
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