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Low power 433 MHz BPSK data transmission system

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Chris Russell
Fri May 29 2009, 07:52PM
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I'm resurrecting this thread because it is now a featured project. Excellent work, WaveRider! I had nearly forgotten about the awesome work you've done here.
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Proud Mary
Fri May 29 2009, 09:09PM
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Very interesting indeed! smile
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Fri May 29 2009, 09:43PM
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totally awsome! Now to inject something silly: What's your Bit Error Rate? hehehe
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GeordieBoy
Fri May 29 2009, 10:56PM
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This is an interesting project and a very good clear write-up of it on here too.

How do you plan to deal with the 180 degree phase ambiguity thing inherent with BPSK? Will you convert it to differential phase shift keying, or add some kind of preamble to the data packets to clarify the ones and zeros in the demodulated data?

Do you have access to a spectrum analyser? It would be interesting to see examples of the PSK carrier spectrum either at the 433MHz or the IF frequency.

-Richie,
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rp181
Sat May 30 2009, 12:47AM
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I have never seen this project before, very well done. Do you have any more uses for it?

Great write-up.
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syntroniks
Sat May 30 2009, 08:38PM
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Answered my own question. Great project BTW!
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timothius
Sun May 31 2009, 02:58AM
timothius Registered Member #1957 Joined: Wed Feb 04 2009, 03:28PM
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Incredible! Everything is done so elegantly - makes my circuits look so "hacky".

How do you ensure that you data is sufficiently balanced such that you don't get comparator errors? (Causing DC offsets at the comparator input)

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graphic_crap
Sun Aug 09 2009, 02:47PM
graphic_crap Registered Member #2280 Joined: Sun Aug 09 2009, 01:21PM
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hello sir
im Naman Maheshwari a final year student and willing to undertake dis very project of urs as my final year project so please can u send me d complete project description on my email id **link** i'll be really grateful to u
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aonomus
Sun Aug 09 2009, 04:43PM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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Out of curiosity, is the reverse of your board a solid ground plane? How did you do impedence controlled routing without grounds on either side of the major signal paths (or does it not matter at your power level?).
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WaveRider
Wed Aug 12 2009, 03:08PM
WaveRider Registered Member #29 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 09:00AM
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Thanks for the comments!

Aonomus: Yes, the back of the board is a solid ground plane, so all lines can be impedance controlled and radiation from the board is minimised.

Also, the phase ambiguity can be easily handled by using differential BPSK.

Note: the sensitivity of the receiver is not quite what I had hoped because the SA639 has a limiter built in which in low SNR (or high interference) situations, "loses" the desired signal and is swamped with noise. I was lucky to get -80dBm sensitivity in the end. The "right" way to do this would be to lose the limiter stage and use a proper AGC so the PLL carrier recovery would have some component of the weak desired signal to lock on to. I may get around to this in a later project....maybe at 2.4GHz.. ALl-in-all I found it an instructive project.

Cheers!
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