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Myke
Fri Feb 23 2007, 06:11PM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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At 24V the flyback hisses because of corona and I think the corona eventually broke the insulation down. Should I do anything about the other outputs? Does the large capacitor have any thing to do with the HV output?
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uzzors2k
Fri Feb 23 2007, 06:21PM
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Large capacitor in the ZVS driver or flyback? If your flyback doesn't put out don't despair, you can salvage the core and make a new flyback. Usually its enough to gorund ouputs that arc to each other.
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Myke
Fri Feb 23 2007, 07:43PM
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The flyback has the capacitor. It's the cilinder thing that sticks out on some flybacks. I don't think I have enough skills and matirials to make a flyback. frown
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uzzors2k
Fri Feb 23 2007, 09:04PM
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That capacitor is just a part of the internal recticfier. You'll be surprised by how easy it is to make your own flybacks, lots of the members here have done it. Here is a write up on it, in german, but babelfish does an ok job of translating. Link2
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Feb 23 2007, 09:15PM
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The HV filtering capacitor has on many flybacks a separate ground connection, so it is also possible to get sparks between this connection and other pins. If the capacitor connection is grounded, the output will change from a silent hissing arc to a loud buzzing spark.
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vasil
Fri Feb 23 2007, 09:23PM
vasil Registered Member #229 Joined: Tue Feb 21 2006, 07:33PM
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Take one good idea from this thread:

http://old.4hv.org/index.php?board=18;action=display;threadid=5379
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Myke
Fri Feb 23 2007, 11:32PM
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If I were to make multiple layers what matirial should I use? (BTW thanks for all the help) How would I remove the core without breaking it? Are there any other parts that I can remove from a flyback?
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uzzors2k
Sat Feb 24 2007, 10:03AM
uzzors2k Registered Member #95 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:57PM
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Put some insulating epoxy over each layer + some HV tape. (can't remember what its called.) The yellow tape from ATX transformers works well, and so does the core. Make sure the insulation stretches well over the layers, as arcing between layers happens easily. Take the metal clamp off the flyback core, and then it should come out easily with some twisting and turning.
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Myke
Sun Feb 25 2007, 11:56PM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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Awhile ago I droped my flyback and the core broke. Should I glue it back together? Should I remove the spacers or not?


1172447816 540 FT20942 Img 1928



[Edit: Fixed double post. Read this: Link2 ]
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Sulaiman
Mon Feb 26 2007, 01:30AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Myke, YES, go ahead and glue the broken pieces together.
For a flyback or an inductor or a zvs you need an airgap
(that's where the energy is stored)

Imagine the cores had two 0.75mm spacers, the total airgap would be 1.5mm,
The glued joints would be less than 10% of that so no problem.

The only time an airgap is not required is for a true transformer.
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