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Patrick
Mon Oct 28 2019, 04:14AM Print
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
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I am getting ready for my biggest HV transformer trick yet. I may sell them here on the forum.

I'm using 3D printed bobbins of the pie type with a semi-auto winder with counter:
- #38 wire double insulated coat
- Copper foil primary
- large cross-section ferrite from TSC (TSF-50ALL)
- Vacuum degassed and filled epoxy or oil
- Kapton, epoxy and "fish" paper insulation to core and insulation to primary.
- Femm field analysis for reliability.

Ill fully evaluate them using my high voltage probes across frequency and voltage.

But I don't think epoxy sticks to Kapton, if it Doesn't then it will peel and that void will fill with air and turn to corona. So I thought to use electrical paper which under vacuum oil or epoxy can penetrate through capillary action, Ive seen the dielectric tables but never used it.

Ive purchased some online but is there anything else i should know ?

Im about to use this ball spark gap to check the dielectric in samples before the actual transformers are made. In this way I can establish a average V/mil for my particular method/epoxy/paper insulator.
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Patrick
Mon Oct 28 2019, 04:22AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
Posts: 5639
Apparently i cant add pics using the edit button. Here is the spark gap : Link2
a standard value seems to be 400 V/mil.
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klugesmith
Fri Nov 08 2019, 01:21AM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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Will you have one set of electrodes separated by the dielectric solid under test,
and use the pictured spark-gap-in-air to measure the voltage?

One spark gap voltage table, copied from a CRC handbook, is up at this site:
Link2
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Patrick
Fri Nov 08 2019, 02:49AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
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klugesmith wrote ...

Will you have one set of electrodes separated by the dielectric solid under test,
and use the pictured spark-gap-in-air to measure the voltage?
yes ball to ball testing. under oil or between solid.
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